In the beginning Slade loses a big hand to Lancey when he calls Lancey's bluff - and accurately so - but still loses Queen high to Jack high. I may not know much about poker, but does it make any sense all to call a bluff esp for a large price when you have such an absolutely awful hand yourself? Don't you need something? anything?
shareJescci:
Yes, your right to bring up that important sequence . . . I have a little secret to reveal . . . re-analyze . . . Slade is paying Lancey off . . . took me forever to figure it out . . . why? . . . watch the movie!
I am sorry, I do.nott see that as the case.
Can you elaborate?
You have me curious
If you could ever possibly understand what that sequence is really all about, one would have to spend a great deal of time with this great picture . . . what we interpret superficially on the screen may not necessarily be the reality, or the real point the film is trying to convey . . . Lancey's old, his time is up, that clearly is being made known to him . . . he himself (with the bad heart) is fully aware of this . . . a new man is awaiting . . . Slade is there to, shall we say, grease the skids for the Kid . . . he buys Lancey off . . . an award for Lancey, for good service . . .
Is Slade the leader of the cabal who must dethrone Lancey? Yes, sort of . . . Yeller has overall suzerainty . . .
Fascinating film and story . . . takes time . . . a great deal of time . . .
Thank you kindly for answering me. It is interesting what you have theorized, but honestly I did not see it that way.
However, you piqued my interest and as you say it takes a great deal of time. I have it on my DVR, so I am going to watch it again.
It truly is a fascinating film which I watched many times years and years ago and only once in at least 20 or 30 years ago and that was just last month. Anyway it is a great reason just to watch it again.
Thanks
Be carefull:
you'll have to watch it several times to figure out what's really going on . . . and there is a great deal going on . . .
Lancey was bought off by Slade? In such an unlikely scenario? Well, most imaginative way of doing it, don't you think? . . .
Did Lancey know this?
If not at that moment, he soon would be . . . as the game with the Kid progresses . . .
Masterpiece movie . . . and as you . . . I too have watched it many times . . . I have the DVD . . . MGM did a great job with this one . . .
Great movie indeed. However after two more viewings last night, I do not see your theory.
I do see a great movie with a lot of plots and sub plots that were so intriguing. The movie offered so much and delivered on all accounts. However, I find it to be just as it was presented, which was fascinating, but alas the theory about Slade you offered is not there from my vantage point and actually would make no sense and would detract from a gem. I am glad that we both can enjoy this masterpiece though!
Huh? Not one thing you said here was accurate. I don't think I've ever seen someone unnecessarily over analyze a simple and straightforward scene, and turn it into such convoluted nonsense. You couldn't have interpreted that interaction more incorrectly if you were blind, deaf, and in a coma.
shareSlade and Lancey had flushes didn't they?
Else Slades comment "How'd you know I didnt have the King or the Ace" doesnt quite make sense. If Slade was bluffing when he bet 2000, and Lancey rebluffed with another 2000, Slade having an A or a King wouldnt be the only concern. Slades hole card could pair any of his open cards to beat Lanceys hand.
But if they both have flushes, his comment does make sense. Slade appreciates that Lance knew he had a flush, but he's saying how does Lancey know his own Queen high flush was good enough to win against Slades flush.
No, Slade had a full house which would beat a regular flush but not a straight flush. So there's no reasonable way he could drop the hand, Lancey is much more likely to have a regular flush.
shareThat's nonsense! When Shooter is dealing the cards, when he deals the last face up card to Lancey he annonces "Possible flush", and after he deals to Slade, he announces "possible flush" then too. Obviously he says "possible" because he doesnt know their hole cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-wfhHOXzyw
Theres no way a possible flush can be a full house when the hole card is revealed, why on earth do you think Slade had a full house.
Also how does your scenario explain Slades comments, if Lancey had a straight flush it wouldnt matter if Slades hole card was a King or an Ace.
by cbc-47911 » Mon Aug 31 2015...Slades comment "How'd you know I didnt have the King or the Ace"Love Robinson's follow-up: " I recollect a young man putting the same question to Eddie the Dude. 'Son, Eddie told him, all you paid is the looking price, lessons are extra'. " share