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Germans pretending to be american


was this done in any other modern war? epsecially one they spoke different languages?

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It wasn't a case of different languages, but it happened relatively frequently in the American Civil War. Both Brigadier General Benjamin H. Grierson of the Union Army and Colonel John S. Mosby of the Confederate Army used troops that infiltrated the enemy lines with enemy uniforms. Also, in the Philippine Insurrection of 1899-1901, Filipinos either in the US Army or sympathetic toward the US were used to infiltrate insurrectionist leader Emilio Aguinaldo's headquarters and facilitate his capture, effectively ending the insurrection.

On one occasion, American troops in the European Theater in WWII actually turned the tables on the Germans less than three months after the Battle of the Bulge. The following is taken from Chapter 3 of The Bridge at Remagen by Ken Hechler, the same book which was the basis for the 1969 movie of the same title:

As the Ninth Army plunged toward the Rhine in the early days of March [1945], two interesting actions occurred whose meaning was not lost on the men of First Army. On the night of March 2, the 83rd Division quietly assembled a task force which consisted of all the German-speaking American troops that could be scraped together. These men donned German uniforms and discarded their olive-drab helmets for the black, low-cut German helmets. Tanks, tank destroyers, and other vehicles were disguised and camouflaged to look like German vehicles. Tricks like these had been pulled by the Germans during the Battle of the Bulge, and they had usually created a great deal of temporary confusion without much strategic success.

The trick worked better than anyone had hoped. The task force set out after dark on March 2, its goal the bridge over the Rhine at Obercassel, a suburb of Düsseldorf. The picked men slipped through the German lines, outwitting enemy sentries by fast talking when challenged. When dawn broke, the column was cautiously picking its way through the outskirts of Obercassel. A German motorcycle messenger challenged the column, refused to accept the hasty explanation, and raced his motorcycle back toward Berlin to spread the warning. Members of the American column vainly tried to bring down the motorcyclist with shots, but the firing only helped to alert the Germans that much quicker. Before long a fire fight had started in Obercassel. The American task force was strong enough to bull its way through this opposition. But the noise of the battle warned the town's chief Luftschutzwart (air raid warden). He set off the alarm that spurred the Germans to demolish their precious Rhine bridge just as American tanks were rolling up to it.


When you look at them, the silhouettes of the Sherman tank and the various types tank destroyers in use at the time could easily be confused for those of German Panther tanks if properly modified and camouflaged, and especially in the dark.

I suspect there is similar stuff happening today on our modern battlefields that won't be declassified for public knowledge for many more decades.

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I can see it happening during the American civil war where each side was aware of the the othe sides way of working but didn't it tAke some courage during WWII where the undercover soldiers would not have been aware of the other side worked? And even though the Germans spoke English wouldn't they still have german accents?

I suppose the confusion have help them?

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The German deception operation was planned and supervised by SS -Obersturmbannfuhrer Otto Skorzeny, Hitler's favorite commando leader who had previously rescued Mussolini from capture by the pro-Allied Italian government. Skorzeny tried to recruit an entire brigade of impersonators but found barely a dozen English-speaking soldiers who had lived in the US before the war and could speak with American accents and understand American idioms and slang. (Note in the movie that General Kohler mentions that Schumacher lived in Texas for several years before returning to the Fatherland.)

Those of the real-life impersonators who were captured were summarily tried and executed. It's a pretty safe assumption that both Skorzeny's impersonators and the American tankers who tried to take the Obercassel Bridge knew they would be executed if caught.

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Thanks for the replies. Maybe threason he couldnt get a full brigade was because the 'volunteers' knew they would shot if they got caught

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Actually, Skorzeny had enough volunteers for a brigade. He just only had a handful who were proficient enough in American English to pull off the type of mission he originally intended.

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Despite being just a handful, they did create some havoc. Suspicious GI's reacted by asking others they didn't know questions to prove they were authentic GI's. For example, who played in the 1944 World Series (St. Louis Browns vs. Cardinals) who was Betty Grable's husband (Band leader Harry James), the capital of whichever state a GI said he was from, certain expressions, etc.

General Bradley was once unable to answer who Betty Grable's husband was, and Eisenhower was so surrounded by body guards that he could barely function.

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Actually, Skorzeny wasn't really involved in the planning or execution of Mussolini. He just showed up that day and conned his way into one of the gliders.

Check out this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Rescuing-Mussolini-Gran-Sasso-1943/dp/1846034620

He was a legend in his own mind.


After the war, when the Arabs fired him as a consultant, he tried to sell his services to the Israelis,

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