Kinchloe/Baker


Did they ever explain on air about why Kinch went bye-bye and Baker took his place?

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No, there was no explanation. If you try and track a timeline of the series to historical events (someone has done that on a wiki) both characters were actually there at the same time.

In reality, I'm sure Kinch would have a backup radio operator.

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So, what would account for Kinchloe's replacement? Kinch could have been killed on a mission, but that's a bit of a bummer, and additionally it would subject the entire operation to scrutiny, so I'm guessing that's not what happened.

I like to think he was transfered to another Stalag where he started a new sabotage operation; but due to the state of race relations in the US in 1970, there was no way they were going to air a show about it. It was one thing to depict a black man in a position where he showed his competence, bravery, loyalty, and intelligence without fail (see also Barney on "Mission: Impossible"), but in 1970 it would have been quite another thing to put him in charge. It's a shame, I totally would have watched "Kinchloe's Commandos".

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Kinch was the least developed (and least interesting) character among the Heroes. Not a good choice for a spin-off.

BTW-Bill Cosby starred on I Spy at the time and was Robert Culp's co-equal. But his character had personality and humor that the subdued Kinch lacked.

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Kinch was the least developed (and least interesting) character among the Heroes.


This is true, and it reminds me of a pretty hilarious German review of H.H., in which it was said (I'm translating it here): Kinch later gets replaced by a different character, who also fits the requirement "Colored, but colorless". (Colorless meaning that his character doesn't really have anything substantial) I thought that was very fitting.

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That's the sort of comment that should never been translated into English let alone repeated here.

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And why would that be, DontBogartMe?

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Because it hurt his delicate Barack Hussein feelings. 

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That word shouldn't be mentioned derogatory or not.

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That word is pejorative. If you were trying to be a wit, you're halfway there no more.

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wrong.

the 1st amendment negates political correctness; either we have free speech (which can indeed upset others) or we don't.

put down the comic books and pick up a copy of The Constitution?

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Reading the U.S. Constitution is one thing,understanding it is another. The First Amendment protects one's freedom of speech from government intervention.

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I read somewhere that Ivan Dixon didn't like the way he was treated by Bob Crane. Not sure if this is true. Anybody confirm/deny?

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Dixon wanted to direct. I think he also felt his character had little to do. As I recall from the recently published Crane biography, there were no issues between Crane and Dixon. Dixon said that if he had known the show had only one more season, he would have stayed.

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Dixon was a great actor. Too bad he was underutilized by this show, but he was probably grateful for the work.

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I agree that the writers never really gave him much interesting to do, although he got a better deal than Ken Washington. At least Dixon got do funny German voices over the phone & radio.

You see Dixon in some old shows, making the rounds before he signed to HH. He's in a Twilight Zone ep as a boxer, and he really was a very good actor.





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Yes I have seen that TZ ep. I attended his alma mater (North Carolina Central University) and you can see some old photos of him in various student plays from years past hung on the wall. They are still proud of him there.

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He escaped Stalag 13 and went to work managing a car wash in L.A.

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Yes, most HH fans seem to prefer Ivan Dixon/Kinchloe over Kenneth Washington/Baker. And no wonder, ID had been with the show longer (since the beginning) and was generally the more high-profile actor of the two. Plus, even with many noting the lack of "Kinchloe-centered" plots, he did get the lead in a few episodes...I don't think Baker ever did (that he was only on the one season partially explains this).

That being said, it's to KW's credit that he did all he could to make Richard Baker a separate character from Kinch. This viewer got the impression that Baker was never quite as secure as Kinchloe in the group (perhaps just as actor Washington wasn't as secure as actor Dixon, not being as tenured either on HH or in show business) and certainly not Hogan's "chief of staff/operations." Can you imagine Washington/Baker doing a "boxing episode" as Dixon/Kinch did with that commanding presence in the ring? So Washington made Baker almost work "twice as hard" at the radio in order to earn the character's (and actor's) place within HH.

I did like Kenneth Washington's acting in the couple of other television shows I've seen him in. STAR TREK, "That Which Survives," one of my favorite episodes, his character like many others was killed off quick yet he still managed to give some substance as he tried to save himself (and the ship). PETTICOAT JUNCTION, even more so, as "By The Book" Blake he was able to be "in the right" of the show's plot over the show's "hero" Mike Minor. As the story showed, Blake's by-the-book persona was the result of legitimate concerns.

My own responses to often debated questions, "Ivan James Kinchloe" would be the full version after Ivan Dixon and real life military man Iven Kincheloe. "James" could have been a middle name with "Samuel" a sort of confirmation name. As for what happened to him, I agree with the speculation that he was transferred to another stalag. This would have preserved Klink's "perfect record" ("no escapes") and avoided killing off the character. Kinch may well have then escaped from the other stalag or just been repatriated in a late prisoner exchange (wasn't he belatedly declared 4-F in an episode?).

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