MovieChat Forums > Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C. (1964) Discussion > Was this the first TV spinoff?

Was this the first TV spinoff?


I can't recall any TV sitcom before The Andy Griffith Show where a recurring character transitioned into their own TV series.

reply

Andy Griffith was a spin off of The Danny Thomas Show. But, I think Andy Taylor was only in one episode.

reply

Yeah. I decided to look this up, and it appears that, ironically enough, The Andy Griffith Show was the first TV spinoff series in television history.

But as you say, Andy only appeared in one episode of Make Room For Daddy, so unlike most spinoff lead characters, such as Gomer Pyle, he didn't have a recurring role on the parent show.

reply

I think the first spin off of a spin off was Good Times, spun off Maude which was spun off All in the Family. Maude was only in 2 episodes.

I think All in the Family holds the record for the most spin offs. Jeffersons, Maude, Archie Bunkers place, Gloria and Good Times (though one time removed)

Happy Days had the Laverne and Shirley and Mork and Mindy spin off but, like Andy Griffith, Mork was a one time character.

I think there was talk about making a Barney Fife spin off from Andy Griffith but DOn Knotts decided to hit the big screen instead.

reply

Happy Days had the Laverne and Shirley and Mork and Mindy spin off but, like Andy Griffith, Mork was a one time character.

Happy Days itself was a spin-off of Love, American Style.

reply

Happy Days itself was a spin-off of Love, American Style.


Not really. It was produced as a pilot in 1971 and was aired on Love, American Style (also produced by Paramount Television) only after it failed to sell.

The success of the film American Graffiti in 1973 revived interest in the project.

reply

All In The Family also had a short lived "spinoff" centered on the Bunker house. And didn't they try to spinoff a television centered on the maid in The Jeffersons?

reply

All In The Family also had a short lived "spinoff" centered on the Bunker house. And didn't they try to spinoff a television centered on the maid in The Jeffersons?


Yes, 704 Hauser with John Amos and Checking in with Marla Gibbs (Florence) and Larry Linville (Major Burns from MASH).

Neither lasted very long. Checking in was cancelled after just 4 episodes and Florence went back to The Jeffersons.

704 Houser aired many years after Archie Bunker had gone off the air and the only "character" it had in common with the original was the house. The premise was that now a black family lived in the house that was once owned by the bigoted Archie Bunker. In this series John Amos' character was bigoted against white people and didn't like that his son was dating a white girl. Maura Tierney played the white girlfriend of Amos' son.

The last name of the family on 704 Hauser was Cumberbatch, which was an in-joke to something Archie had once said on All in the Family. Archie once told a story about knowing a black guy named Cumberbatch and everyone thought he was making it up because they didn't think Cumberbatch was a real name, but something that Archie had made up.




I don't know what they have to say. It makes no difference anyway. Whatever it is, I'm against it.

reply

The Andy Griffith Show was the first TV spinoff series in television history.


FALSE. The Honeymooners (1955) from Cavalcade of Stars...

reply

Your definition is better than the one conventionally used, Sparky. I prefer to think of a spinoff as being "where a recurring character transitioned into their own TV series."

In other words, we shouldn't count TAGS or Laverne & Shirley, Mork, or others mentioned because the new series were designed and the guest spot was written in to a popular series to introduce a character to promote the planned new series. That's not at all what happened with Gomer, which makes it one of the first true spinoffs.

To my knowledge there is only one true spinoff that preceded Gomer Pyle. The series December Bride had the stars' neighbor, Pete, played by Harry Morgan, talk about his wife Gladys for five seasons. When that series ended, Pete and Gladys became a new series, with Gladys now a co-star with Pete.

reply

The virtually forgotten Joey Bishop sitcom was also a spinoff of MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY. Bishop and company appeared on an episode of DADDY. In fact, Marlo Thomas played Bishop's teenage sister.
May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?

reply

Actually, you're confusing spinoff with back door pilot. The Andy Griffith Show was a back door pilot of Danny Thomas' show as he only appeared once and that episode was used as the basis of a pilot for a possible show. I don't know when this was first done, but Donna Reed's production company tried this a half dozen times during her show's run. I'm sure there were others from earlier in the 50s.

Y'know, think about this: If Gomer Pyle had joined the Marines to be a Marine aviator, could you say that Gomer was a back door pilot?

_______________________________________
Resolutely Analog In A Digital World!

reply

Giggity

reply