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Why would the Hardware Store close at 12 noon?


Were they too close to Mexico that they needed to take a siesta at noon? I don't think I've ever seen businesses that close for lunchtime.

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*** SPOILER ALERT ***

One thing we don't know is the day this all takes place. It could have been on a Sunday, and the store might close for the day at noon. Some stores did close for lunch on weekdays back in the 60s, although this seemed like a large metro area (with cabs and an airport), and so the store would stay open.

The fact that apparently only 2 people ran the store (the employee Doodles and manager Dinkler), they apparently would go out to lunch for an hour or so. Another thought is that this was Friday, perhaps a holiday weekend, and were leaving early. Could have been a Jewish holiday, we just don't know the circumstances of the day.

It does seem interesting that a large hardware store would have just one employee (and a manager), whereas the Chinese laundry had several employees (and a manager).


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It was highly common in the 1960s for hardware stores in the city to close at 12 on Saturday, if they were open at all. Also, smaller businesses often closed between 12-1 for lunch.

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Two things about the hardware store scene that always bothered me: First, I thought the store had closed for only an hour, so that doesn't justify them wrecking the place to get out. I don't think any court would overlook all the damage they did. Second, the storage of all that dynamite in the cellar of a business inside a city. That wouldn't have been legal, would it?

"All necessary truth is its own evidence." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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You sure wouldn't have it where you have flammable liquids like paint, or blow torches.

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Two things about the hardware store scene that always bothered me: First, I thought the store had closed for only an hour, so that doesn't justify them wrecking the place to get out. I don't think any court would overlook all the damage they did. Second, the storage of all that dynamite in the cellar of a business inside a city. That wouldn't have been legal, would it?


Are you serious? It's a comedy.

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Yeah, back in the day....the 60s....in smaller towns, hardware stores would close during the middle part of the day for lunch; especially when most businesses were family-owned. As for Wednesday afternoons; most family-practice doctors would take the whole afternoons off for golf. You don't see that anymore! (Either taking off for Wednesdays, or doctors that make house calls).

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you would think they had employees that would go through the store checking to see if anybody was left.

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Yeah that's a good point. The employee Doodles told the Crumps that Dinkler was still inside. The Crumps went into the basement. Dinkler then locked the basement without at least calling out "anyone down there?" or something.

Now for sure Doodles told the Crumps that the store was closing, but the Crumps went in anyway. Dinkler likely figured nobody would go downstairs at closing time, and just locked the basement door like he had done hundreds of times before. What probably should have happened is that Dinkler would lock the basement door before Doodles would leave. Then the Crumps would come in and find the basement door locked, and call for Dinkler to open it up.

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In those days, I guess they did.

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My question is...and please correct me if I'm mistaken...Didn't the police keep the store owner from letting them out because of their stupid bet? They knew they were in danger (and the city block was in danger with all the explosives down there). They heard the bangs and crashes.....and they wouldn't let them out. Capt. Cullpepper has nothing on these guys!

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You are sorta right. The store owner didn't know the Crumps were in the basement to begin with. We really aren't shown what transpired with the store owner between the time he locked the basement until the Crumps came out of the Chinese Laundry. Perhaps he went to lunch, came back at 1PM and was delayed by the cops who told him what was going on. When the Crumps emerged, the owner became upset and wanted to stop the Crumps, but was held back.

I agree that the Crumps should have been let out of the basement; the cops knew they were locked in but kept them there because it was a "race". A cop could have pretended to be an employee and let them out. But that was part of the comedy, to have the Crumps try to get out of a locked basement in a hardware store.



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It's been fairly well-established that the movie takes place on a Saturday. In the old days, many stores would only open for "half a day," and then close for the rest of the weekend. This is why the Crumps are so panicked--they know they'll be trapped until Monday morning if they can't figure a way out.

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You should put spoiler in your heading

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Uh.....you're saying that to an 8 year old post?

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Yea, any film made after 1940 should have a spoiler alert in the heading. Lets try to be fair for all on here

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You should contact the original poster about that.....

Uh....wait. It's an EIGHT YEAR OLD POST, obviously archived from the old IMDb message boards

That might be a bit of a challange.

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I'm up for the challenge and will try again to contact the original poster. My rule is after 15 years, thats when I give up

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Should there be a statute of limitations of spoilers?

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Indeed. Like, once it leaves its original theatrical run. :-)

I did some reading on the subject once. It turns out that not only do most people not worry about spoilers for books or movies, but many seek them out.

For those terrified of coming across a spoiler, I'd recommend they avoid reading anything about a book or movie until they've had the chance to read/watch it. And if they've ever once suffered that trauma, they ought to have learned what caused it. LOL

And what is the spoiler going to be? The good guy wins? The bad guy gets what he deserves? The couple falls in love/stays together? The crisis is solved? Shocking.

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Yea, the year 1940 it should be. Any movie made prior to 1940, its perfectly suitable to post spoilers, otherwise lets all try to do better when posting spoilers

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