Bea's death


The show did an injustice by never explaining Bea's death or Kate's absense. She was the star of the show and she just disappeared.

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Although few TV sit-coms have dealt realistically with death of a central character, Danny Thomas' MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY being a perfect example making the Thomas character a widower after TV wife Jean Hagen quite the show, and replaced by Marjorie Lord playing Wife Number Two, others either replace the character with another actor playing the same role, or character substituted by a different one filling in for another. Though there could have been some mention of Kate Bradley's passing, the writers, even after Bea Benadaret had actually succumbed to cancer, passed off her character as being out of town. It wasn't until the final season (1969-70) did Bobbie Jo (Lori Saunders) talk about Mom in the past tense. After that, Kate Bradley was never spoken about again. Being a comedy show, I take it the writers decided to keep the comedy format intact, and not turn it into a temporary downer by mentioning about Kate's death and to what. Comedy shows of that era hardly ever discussed about current events or the death of a character, particularly a major one. Kate Bradley could have been replaced by someone else playing her part, but who else but Bea Benadaret could play Kate Bradley? Rosemary DeCamp became a good temporary substitute for a while playing a visiting aunt filling for Kate until her return for the final episode of the 1967-68 season. After Kate comeback, DeCamp's character disappeared and never mentioned again. Though the show was somewhat in jeopardy without Kate as its central character during the 1968-69 season, a new character was added in the format, Doctor Janet Craig, played by June Lockhart, to fill in the void. It took some time getting used to her, but at least the writers nor Lockhart made any attempt by making her Janet Craig into a new Kate Bradley. It may have been an injustice not cluing the audience about the passing of Kate Bradley, but for TV in the sixties, it was best to move on and not turn the comedy show into a downer, though I, for one, would have preferred some honesty in someone saying "Kate Bradley has passed away" when someone like a recurring hotel guest inquires about her.

Through the passing of time, TV shows now deal realistically on the passing of a character, rather than have him or her replaced by another. At least Mother Jefferson's death from THE JEFFERSONS was discussed, as was the Jack Soo character from BARNEY MILLER after he passed away. The reflection of the times, especially when TV sit-coms are concerned. I just hate to imagine what would happen had William Frawley died during its I LOVE LUCY (1951-57) run? Would he had been substituted by someone like William Demarest or James Gleason, or would the Mertzes be replaced by another elderly couple similar to the Mertzes? I know for sure that since I LOVE LUCY is straightforward comedy, I gather that no mention of the passing of Fred Mertz would be used in the scripting.

I recall when I read in the newspapers of the passing of Bea Benadaret and saddened by her loss. She was someone no one could replace, but at least, even without her, PETTICOAT JUNCTION went one another two seasons, even if things weren't the same again.

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I know that the early edition to LASSIE did mention the death of Grandpa (George Cleveland), but considering it being a dramatic show, it's possible to have it mentioned and discussed. For comedy series, at that time, it was unheard of, with the exception of what I mentioned before, MAKE ROOM FOR DADDY, starring Danny Thomas. For the sixties TV series of MY THREE SONS, Grandfather Bub (William Frawley, who became too ill to carry on the recurring role) went back to Ireland, and was replaced by his brother, Charlie (William Demarest), who retained his role for the duration of the series. There was never a mention of Bub passing away, and was treated as his character never existed, as did older brother, Mike (Tim Considine), who left after getting married, and never came back.

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It's unfortunate that they didn't mention it. They were able to nod to Charley's death after Smiley Burnette died. I guess it was different for the star of the show. The whole thing was handled in a bizarre way in retrospect. "Hey - let's do one last episode with Kate, only we'll use a stand-in and never show her face and dub in her voice! Then, we'll never mention her again!"

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On "Mister Ed", when Larry Keating died, his character was also sent away and his wife suddenly had a brother living with her and a few episodes later, new neighbors replaced them altogether.

"Dennis the Menace" also sent George Wilson away after the death of Joseph Kearns. Gale Gordon appeared as John Wilson, George's brother, who stayed with Mrs. Wilson. She was then replaced by John's wife Eloise.

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I so wish that Edna Skinner could have continued on Mr. Ed and Sylvia Field on Dennis the Menace... they added so much to their respective shows through their wonderful portrayals of their characters. But I guess it would have been weird to show them continuing to live without their husbands, with their brother, or brother in law, as the case may have been, as it would have pointed out the deaths of Larry Keating and Joseph Kearns even further. Both Keating and Kearns were the life and soul of their shows and really made them come alive; Mr. Ed and DTM suffered grievously in their absences.

It was so awkward the way television shows dealt with the deaths of major actors in real life... but witness the awful, brutal way Henry Blake's death was dealt with in M*A*S*H, and that was only a case of McLean Stevenson wanting to leave the show. There has to be a balance somewhere when an actor and/or a character dies on a show. Some shows do it well, like Barney Miller, with Jack Soo, so it can be done.

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hi golden pet, I'm really curious to know WHY you feel Henry Blake's death was dealt with "in an awful, brutal way" on M*A*S*H*??
thanks, looking forward to your thoughts☺


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hi golden pet, I'm really curious to know WHY you feel Henry Blake's death was dealt with "in an awful, brutal way" on M*A*S*H*??
thanks, looking forward to your thoughts☺


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The plane spun into the Sea of Japan. There were no survivors. Radar was clearly in shock after having said a fond goodbye to his father figure and then was forced to announce this to a full operating room. Can't get more awful and brutal than that. It's not like Blake died in bed after he got home.

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It was a very powerful way for the character to be written out. People die in wars. You spend the whole episode thinking Henry was going to get to go home, and then he dies just as he's about to get out.

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I guess it's easier to kill off a character in a sit-com when the actual actor is still living as opposed to the actor dying, and either substituting the actor with another or just eliminating the character all together. For THE REAL McCOYS, Katie Nolan, who played the wife to Richard Crenna's character, was reportedly having a contract dispute. When the show moved from one network to another, the sixth and final season saw the absence of Nolan by saying she died, making Crenna's Luke a widower. Little Luke was gone and sister, Cassie, also disappeared following the premiere season episode. The duration of the season was finding a new wife for Luke. Somehow, by killing off one of the central characters, the show suffered for it and got cancelled by the finish of the season. Even Walter Brennan, who didn't like the new set-up, didn't appear in numerous episodes, with character being "away," almost the same excuse for Kate Bradley's final days of "Petticoat Junction." So I gather not to make the mistake of the final season of "The Real McCoys," the writers simply had Kate being away, gone and forgotten, with life goes on policy, adding a new character as Doctor Janet Craig (June Lockhart) to fill in the void.

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For a sitcom of the 50-60s I don't think many people were looking for a realistic portrayal of life considering the times.

So it was very much escapist television. With that I don't think the overall tone of the show would've, it wouldn't have made sense to kill a character off.

All in the Family, Jeffersons, MASH and Good Times were more comedy-drama so that fit with the tone of the show.

8 Simple Rules killing off the John Ritter character didn't work because the show was from the point of view of his character. So without the character the show had no purpose.

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It was a "light" sitcom during a very turbulent era in America and I don't think the public wanted death to pop it's grim face on sitcoms in that era any more than the producers did. I think the show handled it pretty well; it was pretty much "understood" that Kate had passed away (wasn't there some sort of reference to her during the early Kathy Jo episodes?) I'm certainly glad there was not one of those tasteless "very special episodes" that loaded with ham-fisted melodrama ABC sitcoms notoriously dabbled with on occasion in the late 70's and 80's.

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I too was surprised  and disappointed  that no mention of Kate's passing was made. But what REALLY bothered me was no "In Memory Of"  at the end of her "last" episode. I mean really, she was the heart and backbone for all those years & she didn't even get a "In Memory Of"? I thought something else would have been nice if the producers put her photo somewhere in the hotel. Maybe behind the registration desk. All in all they handled it poorly. The show lost so much with her passing. I like June Lockhart, don't get me wrong, but she couldn't fill Bea's shoes. I have not enjoyed any of the shows since she's been gone. Truth be told something was off, for me anyway, when Steve married Betty Jo. She changed completely. She was no longer "allowed" to get dirty? In one of the episodes, before the baby came along, the Cannonball 🚂was in trouble and they needed someone to be the engineer. Betty Jo couldn't do it because she promised Steve she would always stay pretty and feminine👗. Come on! He fell in love with her when she was a baseball ⚾ playing grease monkey🐒, and now she has to always be pretty and do only feminine stuff? That episode  REALLY bothered me! Can you tell? I would have hopes that had she saved the train he wouldn't be mad  at her. That he would in fact be proud of her saving the good ol' Cannonball 🚂 . Sorry, I didn't mean to get off subject, but that really upset me. I also noticed that after Bea's passing they did a lot more singing in the show. I know they sung a lot to begin with, and I enjoyed that they all got around the piano 🎹to sing. But it seemed in the last seasons they used it at the end of the show for filler because they ran out of story. It wasn't just a Comedy anymore, it was a Musical-Comedy.

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This is one instance where I think it would have been in the best interest of the show if it had ended when she died. The rest of the series is watchable enough but her absence is always in the back of my mind. It's like Cheers would be without Sam or Father Knows Best without Robert Young. She was way too important to the story and was the very heart of it. IMHO.

RIP, Bea..

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