What state is the show set in?
What state is the show supposed to be set in?
shareif you look over on the board for Green Acres, which was a spinoff of PJ, you'll see that that's been a subject of debate for a long, long time. The prevailing consensus is either southern Illinois or Missouri.
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Since the Cannonball was part of the C and FW railroad maybe C and FW stood for Chicago Illinois and Fort Wayne Indiana. It's about a straight shot on the map between the two cities. I'm thinking Hooterville is either in Indiana or Illinois.
shareI specifically remember an episode in which Uncle Joe refers to Terre Haute, which led me to believe that the show was set in Indiana. But maybe he was just using that to indicate a great distance, considering how far that is from Hooterville.
In reality, Hooterville and Pixley are places set in your imagination, which is what the show is building from the start.
I did scroll around Google maps from Eldon, Missouri and stumbled upon a graphic of an isolated railroad line between Henley and Eugene, Missouri. Switching to satellite view shows an obvious railroad right-of-way and even a trestle on the east end that still stands, but the railroad is long gone. Maybe Mr. Anonymous was having a little fun with the idea of Petticoat Junction by drawing the Cannonball line to Pixley on Google Maps?
Now, the question remains: which one represents Pixley and which one represents Hooterville?
<<<The prevailing consensus is either southern Illinois or Missouri.
I'll have to go with Missouri.
In several episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies,throughout all the seasons, it's said that Hooterville is near the Clampetts' hometownn of Bugtussle.
Even in the first season of TBH.
Also in The Beverly Hillbillies, they visit another town near their hometown.
"Silver Dollar City".
In "The Valley's New Owner," it's revealed at the end whatever state they were in was Confederate during the war. So, it couldn't be Illinois.
shareIn one episode of Green Acres, Lisa was complaining that it was Christmas, and it was 80 degrees and she missed having snow like they had in New York.
Just curious if anyone knows if it has ever been 80 on Xmas in Illinois, Indiana, or Missouri.
Now if that bastard so much as twitches, I'm gonna blow him right to Mars.
According to Wikipedia---
Extra Information:
Tropiano, Stephen (2000). TV Towns. New York, NY: TV Books L.L.C.. ISBN 1-57500-127-6.
The town of Eldon, Missouri (the town which Hooterville is based) was founded in 1882 and was supported schools and businesses for smaller surrounding communities.
The hotel in Hooterville was based on the Burris Hotel in Eldon.
I grew up in Eldon.. The Rock Island RR used to come through the town and the hotel the show was based on wasn't much of a hotel. At least not the way the Shady Rest appeared. According to my father, it was more of a boarding house with weekly and monthly rates. It was closed by the time I was old enough to remember and I recall a tv repair store being next to the old deserted house.
The railroad stopped coming through town on March 31, 1980..
There is a Facebook page about the town we all share memories and photos and several people have posted photos of the old railway.. https://www.facebook.com/groups/150164018397002/
In this photo you can see the depot on the left across the tracks. The "hotel" is right behind it on the left side of the street on the corner.
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It's never specifically revealed which state Hooterville is set in. The creator, Paul Henning, said that the motivation for the Shady Rest Hotel in Petticoat Junction came from his wife's grandparents that built a hotel in the middle of the country along a railroad near Eldon, Missouri in the south central part of the state. He grew up in Noel, Missouri, which is the far SW corner of the state near the Arkansas and Oklahoma borders. My guess is that it was probably intended to be either southern Missouri, northern Arkansas, or possibly eastern Oklahoma or southern Illinois.
It was revealed in 2 different episodes that I recall, that it definitely was not Indiana or Connecticut.
In one episode where Eb wants Mr. Douglas to send him college, Eb says he wants to go to MIT. Picute Oliver's bewildered look when he says "Massachusetts Insitute of Technology?" and replies no, "Middle Indiana Tonsorial. I want to become a barber." Mr. Douglas says "I'm not sending you all the way over to Indiana."
The second was in an episode where Oliver and Lisa go back to NYC for a vacation to visit old friends. One of Oliver's old female friends says that she heard he bought a farm in Connecticut and he says, no not Connecticut. The woman is talking a mile a minute and Oliver doesn't get to tell her where Hooterville is.
I would summarize the situation this way:
1. During the creation of Petticoat Junction, the show was set in southern MO, where the real-world inspiration was located. Evidence for this includes the early proposed title "Ozark Widow". Also, the fact that the train ride involves lots of curves (albeit fewer than when you get to the junction) suggests the Ozarks more than most of the generally flat Midwest.
2. During the actual run of PJ , the setting was generic middle America. The evidence here is the show's obvious avoidance of ever mentioning a specific state. As the various indirect "clues" for a particular state are contradictory, you can't trust any of them.
3. On Green Acres and on episodes where the GA reality spilled over onto PJ, Hooterville was obviously located in the Twilight Zone.
hmmm But both "Petticoat Junction" and "Green Acres" have a tie-in with "The Beverly Hillbillies," right? And the Clampett clan was originally from the Ozarks, too?
And Granny saved up some of her old Confederate dollars - which would have been worthless in Illinois. But she does say somewhere that she hails from Tennessee - and then must have relocated to the Clampett homestead when her daughter married Jed, maybe?
Then Arkansas, Missouri or Oklahoma might make plausible settings for the trio of shows - but we may also go with "The Twilight Zone" as a good answer, too! LOL
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I was watching Green Acres when the regular 'state inspector' Can't remember his name- Anyway, he told them he had to go 'up' to the capital "Bismark" So north dakota is the answer. ND is very hilly. The Beverly Hilbillys were relatives but no necessarily from the same place.
share<<<Also, the fact that the train ride involves lots of curves (albeit fewer than when you get to the junction) suggests the Ozarks more than most of the generally flat Midwest.
One of those 1960's double meanings used for tv show humor.
Although the first part definitely means curves in the way you stated above, by the time they get to "and even more when you get to the junction", they might have been referring solely to the Bradley girls' curves.
Or more likely, both that and what you mention.
I believe it's Missouri. Though never stated on the show Paul Henning based the show on a hotel his wife family owned back in the 1930's and that hotel was in Eldon, MO. He visited that area often so I am betting his ideas were based from that area.
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In one of the episodes ( or it could have been the Return To Green Acres reunion movie from 1990 Mr Drucker was asked what his store's zip code was. He then gave out a number that started with the number 4 and ended in 1/2 (Ie 412221/2)<-- not the correct number . The number he gave gave the location as being in Kentucky
i wish i could recall where i saw it but since it hasnt been mentioned on the tv threads of the the 3 tv shows i suspect the quote is in the 1990 reunion movie
I recall another G.A. episode where Mr. Drucker was talking to Oliver/others? about zip codes. He said something like this:
The zip code for _________ is 67823248915663. Hooterville is 3.
We can't take any "clues" from various things said. Consistency was not an important goal. The goal was to make us laugh.
It was a fictional location that may have had a part of it based on a place in Missouri. But they obviously wanted it to just be somewhere in the middle of the country--not close to either ocean.
It might be in episode 1 where I recall Bedlow referring to a map where the Cannonball rail spur runs across the Missouri / Arkansas state line. I'll guess Hooterville is in MO, Pixley in AR, and the Shady Rest lies somewhere in the middle.
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New Jersey? Lol.
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