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Significance of Wind in L'Eclisse


Wind plays a major role throughout the film. Wind is shown blowing through the trees, from a fan in the apartment, etc. What do you think the significance is? For the life of me I can't put my finger it. Is it to show the chaotic quality of wind and of modernity? That things don't go by rules any more?

I know that we see trees (nature) throughout the film and how the modern landscape is "eclipsing" nature and the "pre-modern world"... Does wind signify how the this world is blowing away?

I'd love to hear other people's input...

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I thought there was always a fan because it was hot. OR that life no one knows where the wind blows and the same can be said about life. That or maybe it's left up to the viewer about the significance. My view may be different then someone elses.

*SPOILER*
i changed my mind. maybe the wind blowing indicates a 'storm' is blowing in because the end the guy is reading a paper about nuclear war and you just get silence in the scenes for about 5 minutes and i am assuming it's indicating death is at hand... unless i interpreted that wrong. feel free to say otherwise

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I don't think it's wind he's interested in - rather the sound of the wind. He uses sound in a similar fashion in Blow Up - I'm thinking of the scene in the park. I just think he wants to use sound to support his visuals so as to give the scenes a more 3-dimensional aspect. Most directors neglect sound or think of it only afterwards.

P.S. Similar use of sound in The Red Desert. Antonioni likes to include the daily background noise that is all around us.

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I think it emphasizes the ceaseless, material processes of the universe. The world pushing on itself and asserting itself, independent of the people living within it. It's own chain of being, and we're an unfathomable part of it.

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agodinruin: "I think it emphasizes the ceaseless, material processes of the universe. The world pushing on itself and asserting itself, independent of the people living within it. It's own chain of being, and we're an unfathomable part of it."
Watching now the leaves blowing and close up of the bark on a tree trunk. Ants are climbing around madly on the bark which validates above quote. The film ends on this "nature" commentary.

katie keene

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I like agodinruin's interpretation, and I will add -

The wind represented Vittoria's inner state of mind, her emotions, her energy, her life force, the wind represented a natural, ceaseless, timeless entity that that "lit her up", pushed her forward, freed her mind, energized her, connected her to nature, and dualistically reminded her that human existence was meaningless, and the wind also opened her eyes to the complexity of love - she was keenly aware that she could not see wind - she could only see the objects the wind touched (just like love...) but not the wind itself, and that paralleled her realization that people could not see or even feel the emotion of love: people equate love to specific physical acts, love is considered present when specific physical acts occur, but without the physical acts, one could not discern/see love. Love and wind are intangible, unfathomable, invisible...

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Just wanted to mention that the wind begins to blow during the final shot of Alain Delon sitting at his desk at work. Signifying what? Maybe emotional change. Maybe the temporal nature of all things on this earth.
Also I think Monica Vitti drops a small folded fan into the barrel of water at the meeting spot.

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I think majority's interpretation's wind's signification as a change is more than agreeable. IMO I think it runs in theme with Vittoria's psych, the stock market, Piero's love life and also the title of the movie signifies it as well. In fact, "ceaseless" is such a beautiful word to describe the whole thematic of the movie. There are constant flow of change and fluctuation of one kind or another. Two character's Vittoria and Piero are in momentary eclipse within their own constant. After viewing this movie I think it's inevitable of the parting of the lovers.

I'm going nuts over this movie.

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"Vittoria and Piero are in momentary eclipse within their own constant."

I love that. Well put.

The scene when Piero is sitting at his desk after the last encounter with Vittoria, as the fan blows his papers on the clipboards, I realized how still he was, as opposed to his usual frenetic pace. It seemed his whole relationship with her had been a step out of his usual reality. And now he sits, he puts the phones back on their hooks, and the wind shifts as he decides to get back to his usual way of life. Or something.

And I too am going nuts over this film, I can't stop watching it or thinking about it.


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I felt the wind complemented the quality of capriciousness in Vittoria's personality. She is notably subject to whim, impulsive, and unpredictable, which is representative of many people who enter into relationships. They end up where ever the wind takes them without regard to reason. In the first scene, Vittoria very clearly reveals her capricious, flighty personality to us. She doesn't know why she doesn't love Riccardo anymore, just that she feels she may be happier elsewhere with no logic or reason as to why. The rotating fan is blowing throughout that entire scene and we get the sense that Vittoria is like a loose piece of paper about to randomly float out the window.

Of course, this is the start of Vittoria's random flight. The wind throughout the rest of the film reminds us that we are on continuous random walk with her. At the end of the movie the wind is still blowing and Vittoria is not seen again - she has left even us behind.

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Beautifully put!

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Yeah, that's a good take on it.

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The sense of freedom and yet of emptiness...


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