At the end when he's dying he say's "I always loved you" etc etc, however is e only saying this because he's dying and he knows this is what she'd want to hear? OR when they're arguing on the boat when she wants to go with him but he won't let her he says something like "Do you really want to be with me? With someone who doesn't care about a single thing on this earth?" Do you think that at this point in the movie he does begin to love her when he realises that someone out there can love him therefore he himself is able to love?
Hi,what Fletcher says " Please know that...I loved you...perhaps more than I knew" he dies before he gets the rest out, Christian was forced into the mutiney in a way, he was so devistated when he came to realize he no longer had a country, he became morose and sullen, it seemed he had nothing left in his life, but in the end he did make the decision to try and return to England, I'm sure he did love Maimiti. that of course is the movie version of events. we may never know what really happend, this would make a good movie too.just called "Pitcairn". byeee.
The nature of the relationship between Maimiti and Christian is one of the important threads that weave together to make Brando’s version so thought-provoking. Maimiti, a king’s daughter who has lived all her life in close proximity to absolute power, intuitively grasps more clearly than Christian what it takes to continue to act under the crushing weight of a leader’s own conscious responsibility for consequences others will bear — consequences if he acts, and if he doesn’t act. When he, now a mutineer (“Ship’s Company, I’m taking command of this ship”) and having returned to Tahiti, won’t come ashore, she goes out to the ship and models for him what he must do to break out of his psychological prison and reengage life. ("Fletcher chief now.") She gives herself to him, not simply as a beautiful woman, but rather as a person of depth and courage. By Maimiti's knowingly choosing, even in the face of Christian's forceful discouragement, to both face unknown risks and leave safety by going with him, she empowers him to embrace his own unknowable future and lead with confidence. (“Tahiti People say you eat life or life eat you. Maimiti go.”) His full love for her, now an adult love worthy of the name, is I believe born in Christian at this moment, and complements her now demonstrated love for him at this darkest moment in his life. (Many thanks to Lightcloud for the great quote and, I believe, the very last line of the film (apart from Maimiti’s mourning wail), “Please know that ... I loved you ... perhaps more than I knew ... and ....”)
Hi Stephen,Nice to see someone else knows the film as well as I do.great film , great script. "Are you a bloody liar, answer freely", Brando's delivery , perfect.
I noticed that at a recent auction of Brando’s personal effects, one item available was a copy of the Bounty script. Wouldn’t it be fascinating if it were to get printed. Given the tales we’ve all heard about the film’s making, I’m sure there were dozens of working scripts, partial or complete, so it’s anyone’s guess which one this is. Nonetheless it would be intriguing to get a glimpse inside the creative workings on this project, much in the way that the recent three-CD album of Kaper’s score (including music for both the final cut and earlier cuts of this film) gives us a similar inside look. Let’s hope the forthcoming DVD will help stimulate new interest in and curiosity about this great film. And again, thanks for another great line, Lightcloud: "Are you a bloody liar? Answer freely." Just the jolt of irony I needed to get the day off to good start!
Hi , yes the script , well that would be something, I have the 3 cd set, how great that is, so much music, I love all the Island tracks, great booklet and nice to see the Bounty painted coming toward you . I really hope the s/e dvd is well done, hopfully with the exstended opening with Brown in the grave scenes.
"I believe I did what honor dictated, this thought sustaines me, exept for a slight desire to be dead which I'm sure will pass".
Yes, that was intriguing, the painting of the Bounty from the bow. Because the style appears identical to the painting in the original ad art, I assume both paintings were done by the same artist at the same time ... but they chose the other one back then (perhaps because Tahiti is seen in the background). How much more interesting stuff hides in the vaults?
I too hope the SE DVD includes the first (extended) opening and the first ending (both taking place on Pitcairn). However, I would hope they’re included as separate elements and the final film itself isn’t tampered with. The “Brando” beginning and ending are, I believe, key to interpreting this version. The “Fletcher Christian” we meet in the opening scene is no stock Hollywood “Errol Flynn” type hero, but instead a seemingly negative character, from which point Brando will show us this character’s growth in conscience and action. And Brando’s death scene at the end is, for me, unique. We are not shown a hero simply closing his eyes and, presumably, sailing off to heaven or Valhalla or wherever heroes go. Instead, we are shown the absolute blunt reality of death, of life terminating ... Period. And then the burning ship sinks beneath the black night waters. (A friend of mine watching this film recently ... I believe for the first time ... gasped out loud at this ending.) We are then left to reflect on the film’s final discussion, of whether Christian’s dying has been “useless, pointless.” Brando’s interpretation refuses to let us off with a “happy” or “heroic” ending; rather, he challenges us to remember back across this story and weigh Christian's own crisis of conscience and ask ourselves whether conscience, in and of itself, is worth the candle. Not a comfortable question, with no prospect in sight of being directly “rewarded” for following one’s conscience. (Brando’s interpretation of Christian pointedly gives us the portrait of an “Age of Reason” man who has left medieval superstition behind.) I assume the original beginning and ending were removed when they realized that starting and ending with Brando made the stronger statement. Anyway, that’s how it seems to me. What do you think?
According to Manso's book Brando only became interested in the movie when he was given a script which included the post mutiny action. The ending is dissapointing in that I just wanted the mutineers to live that island paradise ideal some of us (me ) fantasize about.. frolicing with native girls, drinking cocanut milk etc. However, this ending seems very true to the character Brando has portrayed throughout, it makes sense that he would want to go back to England to seek justice against Bligh. Apparently Brando directed the ending himself when Milestone quit the film. To create accuracy in the death sequence he stripped and had his body engulfed in ice- this apparently to simulate the heat loss which a person undergoes when suffering from severe burns.
The nature of the relationship between Maimiti and Christian is one of the important threads that weave together to make Brando’s version so thought-provoking. Maimiti, a king’s daughter who has lived all her life in close proximity to absolute power, intuitively grasps more clearly than Christian what it takes to continue to act under the crushing weight of a leader’s own conscious responsibility for consequences others will bear — consequences if he acts, and if he doesn’t act. When he, now a mutineer (“Ship’s Company, I’m taking command of this ship”) and having returned to Tahiti, won’t come ashore, she goes out to the ship and models for him what he must do to break out of his psychological prison and reengage life. ("Fletcher chief now.") She gives herself to him, not simply as a beautiful woman, but rather as a person of depth and courage. By Maimiti's knowingly choosing, even in the face of Christian's forceful discouragement, to both face unknown risks and leave safety by going with him, she empowers him to embrace his own unknowable future and lead with confidence.