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The irony for George Grizzard (spoilers)


In the film, Senator Van Ackerman (George Grizzard) leads an effort to blackmail Senator Anderson (Don Murray) for his past homosexual tryst.

The irony is that Mr. Grizzard was in real life gay -- a fact he was forced to conceal from the public for most of his career. (Don Murray is straight.)

I don't know what George Grizzard thought about the character he was playing, or whether he took professional pleasure in portraying such a man in the most vile, underhanded way possible. But his personal situation must have given him some grim sense of payback for being compelled to remain closeted for so long himself in order to pursue his career.

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Legend actress Bette Davis once said, "when you play a role, you play a role". Maybe that was in Mr Grizzard's mind.

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I imagine so. Look at all the refugees from Nazi Germany who went to Hollywood and ended up playing Nazis themselves. But they all felt it was the best way they had to show people how evil the Nazis really were.

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Nazis aren't the only "bad boys" of history.

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And...who said they were? I was giving an example of actors who played characters who were the antithesis of their own beliefs, who in real life discriminated against -- or worse -- such persons. Your comment is irrelevant to both the topic and the post.

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All right. I made a boo boo. Anyway, actors, and actresses, play all kind of roles as part of the job. Me for instance, I can never be an actor. I will refuse roles where I can be abusing a woman [just acting I know], abusing kids, killing defenseless people or anything that goes my principles. Some do, but others do those roles because they have to eat, pay the mortgage and the other bills. Can't blame them. Whether a Henry Fonda or some not well known character actor. A way of life.

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Yes, some actors do turn down roles they find objectionable for one reason or another. Sometimes it's the type of role. Sometimes it's because the part requires them to do things they don't want to (such as an actress refusing to do nude scenes). But often actors end up taking parts (including ones they initially refused) because they become convinced that they can do things with a role they at first didn't feel comfortable with.

Of course, most actors are usually unemployed, so they don't always have much leeway in picking and choosing their parts. Most have to take what they're offered -- including even many well-known names. Only the few at the very top can readily reject roles and not worry about it.

In 1961, when A&C began filming, George Grizzard was a young actor, and the chance to co-star in a major film with a dozen movie legends was obviously one he couldn't pass up. The fact that, as a closeted gay man, he portrayed an unscrupulous Senator blackmailing another Senator over a homosexual incident in his past, must have made the role more compelling to him.

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Of course, this film's director, Otto Preminger, was one of those Jewish expatriates who played Nazis in movies like STALAG 17 and MARGIN FOR ERROR.
May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?

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Exactly. I remember seeing Preminger being interviewed on The Dick Cavett Show around 1971, and Cavett was trying to recall the name of a film Preminger had acted in with Monty Woolley (it was The Pied Piper, 1942). In trying to come up with the title, Cavett said to Preminger, "You played a Nazi", at which Preminger chuckled, "Naturally -- what else would I play?!"

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