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His talking to the viewer/tv audience spoiled it...


I like this show, but would've loved it more, if Roger Moore had'nt of kept talking to the camera. He made the show more like a stage play. It spoiled it i thought.

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Not only that, but my pet peeve is when the halo would show over his head at the episode beginning and he raised his eyes like he was looking at it. Fortunately he didn't do it after, I think, the first season.

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Actually that's backwards; he didn't look at his halo at all in season 1 (I just looked at all 12 intros at high speed), 10-4-62 to 12-20-62, only later.
I've seen all episodes of all 6 seasons and just out of curiosity noted as I watched that he looked at his halo in the following episodes:
100s-none: 00 of 12 episodes
208,216,219,223: 04 of 23 episodes
301-303,306,307,309,318,322,323 09 of 23 episodes
401-404,406,407,409 07 of 09 episodes
501,503-505,507,509-512,514-519,521,523-525,527: 20 of 27 episodes
602,603,605-607,611-618,620 14 of 20 episodes
What can I say, I'm a Saint geek. It was a wonderful show that started out noble but by season 6 became mere unendurable sex-crazed porn. I loved Roger Moore as the early noble version of the Saint but like what happened with other heroes of the time (e.g. Star Trek's Kirk) loathed both his latter infantile version of the Saint & James Bond, stupid, deceived little brats who like slick Willie don't know when to keep their pants up but pretend to be men. Ironically one misandrist, feminazi commenter on 110, The Golden Journey (one where he did NOT look at his halo!), mentioned alleged misogynist behavior, but I'll bet he didn't say a word about the half-naked broads that real men (unlike infantile Bond-type frauds) know is even more so mysogynist.
As to "breaking the 4th wall" in talking to the audience, being a Saint geek I've always enjoyed it as effective communication and especially loved it in the Saint as I did everything about him save for his lustful filth decadence that never would have happened if Charteris's wonderful origin of The Saint, "The Saint Meets The Tiger" (www.e-reading-lib.org/bookreader.php/71222/Charteris_-_The_Saint_Meets_the_Tiger.html and http://youtu.be/K85hUFQ409M) had been sustained since he married Pat at the end, but marriage and family take real men and those are both absent and imagined & pretended to be undesirable (Robert rightly titled one of his books "Slouching Towards Gomorrah") as we morally slouch but chronologically speed toward our destruction allegedly "new" march of "progress" that is really just very old slide backward into the ancient barbarism whence Jesus Christ and His gift of faith rescued us, something about which today's historically and especially Biblically illiterate haven't a clue while pretending to be chic and informed. See Don't Waster Your Life at www.desiringGod.org.

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Well done! Thanks!

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Well, in the books, Simon Templar was a sometimes poet and philosopher and that is how the series paid homage to that fact of the character. By the way, Leslie Charteris, the creator, loved that part as it showed that The Saint really was, at the time, a really different kind of "hero". Templar looking up at the halo really showed Templar's dislike of that attention that was brought upon him in the books. The novels always implied Templar never really liked that nickname and Roger Moore, who sometimes looked disdainfully up at it, hints at that quirk of Templar's.







Be as wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove

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One of my favorite parts of the show was waiting for someone to introduce Simon Templar and see the halo above his head. I also loved how he talked to the audience. Magnum PI did the same thing in a different way. Tom Selleck would always do voice overs during parts of the episodes. I thought it made the show even better than it already was and is.

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Totally agree with you. I loved listening to the intro by Templar and waiting for him to be introduced.

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I don't agree. Addressing the audience can be a very effective dramatic device. Shakespeare uses it, especially in plays like Richard III, where the villainous Duke of Gloucester - later king - tells the audience what he is going to do and then does it.

The Saint is a loner. So we see him sitting alone outside a cafe with a glass of wine or a cup of coffee. He has no one to talk to, so he talks to the viewers at home. He says something about the place he is in, and gives little descriptions of the events happening around him that provide the atmosphere. I find that very effective indeed.

As to looking up at the halo. I was approached by one of these chuggers (who approach you in the street so that the charity they represent can garnish a regular donation from your bank account.) To prevent this, I told him I worked as a fundraiser for a charity (true), and regularly donated to three other charities (also true). The chugger then called me a saint; and, yes, I looked up at my halo.

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That's known as "breaking the fourth wall", a common artifice in films.

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I loved the whole "breaking the 4th wall" thing. Frankly, this makes the show all that more loveable.

But shows aren't for everyone...and that's a good thing. For me, I wish there were more shows that were as fun as The Saint and some of the other oldies.

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I actually liked it when Simon talked to us just for a few moments. A nice lead into the story.

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