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The later-season changes in Drysdale and Miss Jane


In the earlier episodes, Drysdale is seen as a respected executive of the city. Sure, he's somewhat greedy - what bank owner isn't. But you also get the feeling that he really likes the Clampetts and is not entirely a bad guy.

Miss Jane is shown as a well-educated woman who speaks many languages, understands social graces, and could easily step in and handle most situations if Mr. Drysdale is unavailable.

Fast forward to later seasons where Drysdale is now a penny pincher, totally full of greed and selfishness, and treats his employees like they're working in a sweat factory. He even tries to cut off their benefits. Not to mention foreclosing on people's loans.

Meanwhile, Jane is now living in a one-room apartment barely able to make ends meet. She's forced to work weekends and is blamed when all of Drysdale's nasty schemes blow up in his face. Once a respected executive assistant, she is now a low-paid grunt employee.

While there are some funny scenes with these two, it's a shame that they were turned into such miserable cartoon characters.

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I agree about Drysdale and Hathaway. As the series went on, pretty much all the characters became cartoons of themselves. Jethro became stupider and more naive, and ate everything in sight. Granny developed super-human strength and could climb buildings and jump out of airplanes. Elly acquired more exotic pets like bears and seals. Jed pretty much stayed the same, because there was little in his character to begin with. But the family as a whole became more gullible to con artists like Phil Silvers selling them any piece of land in sight. When all this happened it became so hard to watch this show.

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So agree with your assessment. Max Baer deserved awards for his performances. I thought it sad that Granny became an angry shotgun-toting busybody who thought everything should go her way, and they dumbed down Jed who, if anything, I thought he would have been bright enough to catch on over the years, or perhaps that was just Buddy Ebsen's native intelligence shining through. But after watching the little green men episode, I'm about done. The writing is beyond lazy. We just finished watching The Mayor of Bug Tussle and have no idea how Mr. Drysdale got the (spoiler alert) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx crooked mayor to abandon Granny's millions for whatever it was he gave him.

End spoilers.

That the show went on four more years is a surprise to me.

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*** SPOILER ALERT ***

I saw that same episode today, with Mayor Hogg from Bug Tussle. Actually Drysdale gave the mayor $100K to keep him from marrying Granny and taking all her millions. I assume Drysdale paid it out of his own pocket, to get Hogg out of town. The episode wasn't that bad, with James Westerfield as the Mayor. As a side note, in the episode Mayor Hogg asks Jethro if he is old enough to vote, and Jethro replies "just about", which would put him at 20 years old, but of course in real life Max Baer had to be close to 30 in this episode.

Yes as the episodes went on, there were plots where Granny re-fought the Civil War, and flew the Confederate Flag. Nowadays it looks wrong to show that, but in the late 1960s I guess it was OK.

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In Granny's mind it was North who had slaves and the South ended slavery... I remember once the subject of slaves came up...Jethro was wanting to make one of the "Grunions" his slave girl and Granny said something like, "The South put an end to that nonsense!"

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>>>I saw that same episode today, with Mayor Hogg from Bug Tussle. Actually Drysdale gave the mayor $100K to keep him from marrying Granny and taking all her millions. I assume Drysdale paid it out of his own pocket, to get Hogg out of town.

And then Mayor Hogg became "Boss" of another town and screwed over the Duke boys.

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Jed ... would have been bright enough to catch on over the years,


In my interpretation of the show Jed realized how rich he was and how much power it gave him. He just liked his lifestyle the way it was and kept it that way. he never fell for any of the schemes thrown at him. He would let them go so far because reigning them in. Example, he let Jethro play 00 spy and producer to a point.



I am talking about the first few seasons before all the characters got dumbed down. Once that happened ...

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I think Jed was too soft and did fall for some schemes. The Phil Silvers character kept selling Jed stuff like Central Park and the George Washington Bridge in New York. It never got that far that Silvers got the money, but Jed was willing to buy them. It was just absurd that Jed would think that the Silvers character would own all this real estate, and wouldn't ask Silvers for proof he owned it.

But yeah Jed otherwise was smart with his money. If you walked up to him and asked him for a million dollars, he wouldn't give it to you unless you had a good reason. But I would think he would understand there would be crooks out there like Silvers, but he never did.

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Phil Silvers showed up in season 8. The topic on this thread is the changes of the characters in the later seasons. At that time Jed would be gullible.

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>>>Phil Silvers showed up in season 8.

He also showed up in the earlier black and white seasons trying to sell them The Hollywood Bowl among other famous landmarks.

Iirc, it was actually the first season.

It had to be the first season because the Pearl Bodine character was there also.

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That was Jesse White who tried to sell Jed the Hollywood Bowl so Pearl could yodel to an audience. There was a lot of similarity in his character and the one Silvers played years later. But in the White episode, they didn't extend Jed's gullability to several episodes--in which Shifty Schafer kept turning honest and giving back the checks, only to turn dishonest again, and then reverse again.




Why don't we just shoot 'em down and be through with it?

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I always found it funny, that even though Granny had superhuman strength, when Jethro had to carry her out of the room on occasions, she would fight and kick but was not able to break free of his grasps.

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>>>I always found it funny, that even though Granny had superhuman strength, when Jethro had to carry her out of the room on occasions, she would fight and kick but was not able to break free of his grasps.

That's because Jethro also had superhuman strength, as can be seen in many episodes.

When Jane took him bowling and Jethro threw the bowling ball, he knocked down the pins, the pinboy, the wall, and some sign out on the street. etcetera.

Jane Hathaway then told Jethro that he was as strong as an ox.





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I don't think Drysdale of the earlier seasons was particularly greedy or materialistic. He was more obsessed with making money as a challenge. He didn't really care about the trappings of wealth. He had them (society wife, BH mansion, etc)because they would get him next to people who had money. Ues, he liked the Clampetts; he probably related more to them than his clients

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To me all of the characters became a parody of themselves. Jed became overly soft, Jethro became an all out arrogant jerk, Granny became so explosive you could not look at her without her going off. Elly did not really change that much.

But yeah there were times Mr Drysdale even snapped at the Clampettes, something he would have ever done in earlier seasons.

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>>>But yeah there were times Mr Drysdale even snapped at the Clampettes, something he would have ever done in earlier seasons.

He snapped at them in the very first episode.

Of course, that was before he knew who they were.

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I agree Drysdale was more exaggerated in later seasons but I think the one they went too far with was Jethro who was an endearing sweet bird brain in the early seasons but they turned him into a loudmouth, rather obnoxious moron (and very condescending to the other Hillbillies) forever tripping up on his own stupidity.

I don't see that much of a change in Miss Jane over the years other than perhaps making her a little more love-starved and anxious to land a man which seems a natural progression given she was getting deep into middle age by then. From the beginning it was played that Drysdale was abusing her competence and dedication so I wouldn't be surprised if she had been poorly paid or living in a small apartment had they addressed that matter early on.

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>>>I agree Drysdale was more exaggerated in later seasons but I think the one they went too far with was Jethro who was an endearing sweet bird brain in the early seasons but they turned him into a loudmouth, rather obnoxious moron (and very condescending to the other Hillbillies) forever tripping up on his own stupidity.

yep. Exactly. And by the time of the last episodes in the last season, even the Clampetts didn't like Jethro anymore.

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It's a comedy..not meant to be believed but meant for entertainment and to suspend reality for awhile. Do you think a pig like Arnold actually existed (same producers/creator) yet still it worked because it was FUNNY! Geez, some folks on these threads have way too much time to think...and when they do they tear down one of the greatest sitcoms ever. After 54 years this show makes me laugh...character development be damned.

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To me, the change in Drysdale started with the change to color, I specifically remember in "Admiral Jed Clamped" (the first color episode) him being too cheap to charter a motorboat, and made Jane row,..there was also an incident where he ordered Jane to have a can of caviar soldered shut so he could get his money back. Of course this was nothing compared to what we'd see in the coming seasons..

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"Geez, some folks on these threads have way too much time to think...and when they do they tear down one of the greatest sitcoms ever."


But...isn't that kinda the point of a message board about the show...to DISCUSS the show? :/

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Tearing down is not discussing, it's criticism.

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>>>It's a comedy..not meant to be believed but meant for entertainment and to suspend reality for awhile. Do you think a pig like Arnold actually existed (same producers/creator) yet still it worked because it was FUNNY! Geez, some folks on these threads have way too much time to think...and when they do they tear down one of the greatest sitcoms ever. After 54 years this show makes me laugh...

tv today is the opposite of then.

Today, it's mostly "reality" shows.

Back then, it was mostly fantasy shows.

"The Beverly Hillbillies", "Green Acres", "I Dream of Jeannie", "My Favorite Martian", "Gilligan's Island", "Batman", "Lost in Space", "The Wild Wild West", etcetera.

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Been watching season 1 as of late,and in comparison, the roles are almost reversed,..Drysdale is the straight man for Jane's 9 dollar words, and her chasing of Jethro,..

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Alanjobe,

Your assessment of how those two characters changed in a bad way is "spot on." Even as a kid, I recognized that they were changing the characters and that the show wasn't as funny because of it.

I think the producers and writers WERE out of fresh ideas. They didn't have any more parts of California for the Clampetts to discover. Jethro had forayed into as many careers as they could imagine, so they fell into twisting their two friends, Drysdale and Hathaway, into characters that bore little resemblance to the people we had known for years.

One of the biggest keys to the show's success was that their banker was totally honest--he never tried to make himself richer at the expense of the Clampetts. He did all he could to make them wealthier--which would naturally be good for him, of course. He also did all he could to get them to like living in California so they wouldn't want to move back home. He never tried to make them stay against their will; he wanted them to like their California lives.

The crooked Drysdale of the last seasons who truly gypped employees out of promised bonuses and did other dishonorable things would have simply gypped Jed out of most of his millions years ago and probably retired.




Why don't we just shoot 'em down and be through with it?

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Thank you. I love your post and appreciate your comments.

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>>>The crooked Drysdale of the last seasons who truly gypped employees out of promised bonuses and did other dishonorable things would have simply gypped Jed out of most of his millions years ago and probably retired.

iirc, according to both the movie and special, he did.

"Return of the Beverly Hillbillies" and "The Legend of The Beverly Hillbillies".





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