This was a great movie!! At the end of the movie, there is a caption saying that, and this is not a direct quote, the trials at Nuremberg ended in 1949 and almost a hundred people were sentenced to long sentences. It also said that not one man is still in prison from those trials. I didn't understand that because at least Rudolf Hess was still in prison at that time because it was released in 1961 and he died at Spandau Prison in 1987 and Albert Speer who was released in 1966.
I understood it to be a reference only to those tried during the Judges' Trial (one of the 12 NMT trials), not during the main trial (the only one held before the IMT).
Those were indeed - if I recall correctly - all released by the early 50's.
Another type of crime, if you ask me. A mockery of justice.
SheWillRememberYourHeart ~ Those were indeed - if I recall correctly - all released by the early 50's.
Another type of crime, if you ask me. A mockery of justice.
We also gave some well documented Japanese war criminals who were guilty of similar, or worse, brutalities a complete pass because it was politically expedient.
No need to make Georgie Dub-ya out to be the worst manipulator of the law. It happened before him and it's happening again after him.
Let's face it, the law is a matter of question and is open to interpretation at one's convenience, whether one be a nation, a corporation or some other wielder of influence, money and power. "Justice" doesn't really exist, does it? It's a moving target on shifting sand that is constantly being painted re-painted in varying shades of grey and it's often for sale or is changed on the fly to mollify the whims of a mob. Of course, try telling that to the judge, should you ever find yourself on the docket.
Child: I'm not sure where "umerika" is, but most American's that I know, do not cheer or support Bush for how handled the US for the past 8 years. He is intensely disliked, too bad his supporters didn't realize this 4 years ago when he was reelected. (which is an embarassment to America!)
The Iraq war, which he got us into under false pretenses is one of the main reasons Barack Obama is SO popular here. MILLIONS oppose it FYI (for your information) The next administration will be the one to eventually get us out of Iraq.
FYI- although Vietnam escalated out of control during LBJ's administration, it was actually JFK who got us into it.
How this pertains to the wonderful film Judgement at Nuremberg is questionable to me.
>>FYI- although Vietnam escalated out of control during LBJ's administration, it was actually JFK who got us into it.<<
Actually, the first Americans were sent to French Indo-China during Harry Truman's presidency, and the first official American "advisors" to the South Vietnamese while Dwight Eisenhower was in the White House. The whole U.S. experience in Vietnam was a political outgrowth of Cold War politics.
"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."--Oscar Wilde
After lurking as an observer on these boards for many years, I find myself compelled to make my very first post. Ironically, is in response to the political comments being made and not to the merits of the film (the political back and forth usually bores me on this board-I come to IMDB for film commentary, not politics). However, having just viewed Judgment at Nuremberg for the umpteenth time, I feel I can't bypass this topic without a comment.
>Disclaimer: reasonable people can disagree regarding the entry into and conduct of the Iraq War and on George Bush's performance as president (reasonable people really can, though many of the comments I've seen here lead me to believe that many of the posters cannot)<
Having laid that groundwork, does anyone else find it ironic that, on a board dedicated to Judgment at Nuremberg, some posters want to play the old "let's bash Bush" game? I believe that the film makes the point that good men (and women) have to stand up to evil and not just look the other way. While Saddam Hussein will never rival Hitler in the atrocity department, shouldn't someone who uses poison gas against his own citizens, butchers those who oppose him and allows his psychopathic sons to rape, torture and despoil for their own pleasure meet some sort of less than pleasant end? Recall please that in WWII (once we finally got into the fight), we didn't spend years dithering over sanctions or wring our hands on whether or not Hitler was really that bad of a guy. We sent young men into battle to drive the German Army back toward Berlin while simultaneously bombing the bejebus out of German cities. The trials didn't start until after the surrender. Maybe, just maybe, those who love Judgment at Nuremberg might concede that Hussein resembled the men in the dock a bit more closely than did George Bush? Perhaps these same folks might also be able to look past their disagreement with policy/philosophy to admit that the world may just be a tad better off without people like Hussein, and that, again, just maybe, Bush may have had something to do with Huseein's no longer being counted among the living?
Nah, I guess they can't.
(Sorry for the rant-I promise my second post will only regard film commentary!)
@poetwarrior: since we're giving opinions, no, I don't think the world is better off with Saddam Hussein. He was insignificant outside of his own country then and he still would be were he alive. If he were alive, Iraq would be in better shape. Perhaps the Iraqi people are better off without him, but it wasn't up to the US to remove him.
Both Rudolph Hess and Albert Speer were tried at Nuremburg. Speer sentenced to 20 years at Spandau Prison; Hess sentenced to live in prison, also at Spandau.
The people you mention were not among the 99 defendants tried in the American Zone who were all out of prison by then. This part is hinted at quite strongly in the Government's and Military's desire not to alienate the Germans any longer in their efforts to get Judge Haywood and the Prosecutor to tone down the sentencing. Also, U.S. intelligence made made use of many Nazi's, SS, scientists, intelligence, medical people and so forth over the years, giving them cover and protection sadly to say. This was attributed to their greater fear of the Soviets once the war ended.
Speer and Hess were tried by the International Military Tribunal. The caption refers to the 12 subsequent trials of the Nuremberg Military Tribunals, which only had American judges.