How is Haywood able to talk directly to Janning?
How is Haywood able to talk directly to Janning in the final scene of the movie if neither of the carachters could understand each other languages?
shareHow is Haywood able to talk directly to Janning in the final scene of the movie if neither of the carachters could understand each other languages?
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Even if we assume that Janning was fluent in english because he was a judge, how could the prosecutor talk to Irene Hoffman Wallner at her house, if it's clear that she needs the headphones to understand when people are talking in English at the trial?
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I also think they conversed in English. Not in German, for sure, because at the beginning of the movie, Hayworth didn't understand "Auf Wiedersehen Opa" (Goodbye, Grandpa) — he didn't have the time to learn it properly. Janning, however, was a highly intelligent man — this was also confirmed by his former professor. It is very possible that he knew English. During the trial he had an interpreter, just like all the other German people. This is not mutually exclusive. Remember how Adlai Stevenson shoutet at Valerian Zorin: "Do not wait for the translation, yes or no!!!"?
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My god, but you're rude.
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I'm amazed that people are so awed at anyone speaking a foreign language.
I live in Turkey and English, German or French (choice is left to the students) are taught in our public schools. Even the worst high school graduates can at least communicate on a basic level. I imagine a college graduate would easily speak or understand English, a universal language by today's standards.
I have always assumed it would be so in any modern country.
Never be complete.
Heh, I watched the movie with the understanding that all of the German people at the trial DID understand and speak Enlgish, the headphones being more of a courtesy/insurance that nothing was missed in translation or due to the stress of being on trial. :P
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shareFirst, it was established as a convention in the film that dialogue that was really in German was delivered by the actors in English (Rolfe begins his opening statement in German, then suddenly switches to English, which establishes that point). This is less cumbersome than having subtitles, but it does sometimes raise the issue of what language the characters are meant to be speaking in.
When Rolfe twice speaks to Janning in private about the defense, clearly they would be speaking in German. Still it seems that both DO speak English. Janning is a professor, and probably knows several foreign languages. Rolfe speaks with Haywood at the end of the film at Haywood's house, so that suggests they are speaking in English. Why the headphones then. Well, it is not a courtesy, as someone noted, but a basic right to be able to follow your own trial in your native language. Even if you know the language of the trial (English), it doesn't mean you are most comfortable expressing yourself exactly in it. So even German's who know English would be likely to make use of the translation.
How about Irene Hoffman Wallner and her husband speaking with the prosecutor. My guess would be that that conversation took place in German. The prosecutor had been there several years already, needed to read thousands of documents in German, and so could plausibly have learned the language. Or it is possible he was chosen for the job precisely because he already knew German. That was alot more common before 1945 then since. In fact German was fairly commonly at home by many Americans up until the First World War, after which it became unpopular.
I didn't care much about the language they were speaking. I was much more interested in how someone would allow a convict and the judge who condemned him to life imprisonment to have a chat in a cell, without supervision, handcuffs or whatever. Makes no sense.
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I can't imagine Janning attacking Haywood. That would be completely out of character with his entire personality and behavior in the movie.
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I didn't care much about the language they were speaking. I was much more interested in how someone would allow a convict and the judge who condemned him to life imprisonment to have a chat in a cell, without supervision, handcuffs or whatever. Makes no sense.
If you are under a certain age, then you weren't around when such visits to incarcerated individuals were common place. If you were born after, say, 1970, then it's understandable if you can't conceive of day and time in which the way certain things are done today as a matter of policy and rote were ever done any differently.
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If both consent to it, then why not? The idea was to have a private word. Both were old men and there was no malice between them. No reason to expect violence.
"I'll book you. I'll book you on something. I'll find something in the book to book you on."
I don't think there ever was a hint or intention of any kind of retaliation
from the character, because although both men had disdainment for each other; they also had a certain kind of respect for one another as well.
"OOO...I'M GON' TELL MAMA!"
Janning spoke English.
"I'll book you. I'll book you on something. I'll find something in the book to book you on."
The same scene, somewhat abbreviated, occurs at the end of the TV version of "Judgment." The judge (Claude Rains) meets with Janning (Paul Lukas) in the latter's cell with noone else present. An odd thing in the TV version happens in the previous scene, when Rolfe comes to the judge's dwelling to ask him to visit Janning. Rolfe is physically pushed back by Capt. Byers (the William Shatner role, played by Martin Milner). The judge gestures for him to allow Rolfe to speak, but Byers' demeanor suggests he thinks Rolfe is some kind of threat.
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