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Italian subtitles on TCM print?

posted 9 years ago by hobnob53
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I'm watching Judgment at Nuremberg on TCM right now and noticed again that during the opening credits both the film's title and the blurb stating the location and time of its setting have green subtitles in Italian!

"Vincitori e vinti" and "Norimberga, Germania 1948", respectively. ("Victors and Vanquished" is I believe the Italian title.)

What the hell?!

I'd forgotten but the last time I saw this on TCM it had the same thing. I didn't post a comment then, but this is too weird. Did anyone else notice this? My TV isn't set for other languages, subtitles, close-captioning or anything else so it wouldn't show up unless it was on the print.

Where does TCM get these things?

PS: And as I thought I remembered, the coda at the end of the film (telling how none of the defendants sentenced to life were still in prison) also has green Italian subtitles translating it.

Che? Come va?

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[–] TheMichael 9 years ago

I watched it today too. I know, right? Italian subtitles, and the movie wasn't in the correct aspect ratio. TCM needed to use torrents to download a last minute copy of the film? LOL. I've never seen TCM show something like that, so maybe they'll show a better version next time.

[–] jims08520 9 years ago

It was shown this way a few weeks ago as well - incorrect aspect and Italian subs at beginning and end.

I wrote to TCM and asked why. No reply yet.

[–] hobnob53 9 years ago

I didn't see the broadcast a few weeks ago but as I indicated I did see the film several months back and saw the Italian subs then. So this obviously isn't a one-time deal.

The aspect ratio was only 1.66:1 but you're right, the film wasn't shown even at that modest a.r. The perplexing thing is that in previous years TCM has run the original film, no subtitles and proper a.r., and even with the pre-credit and post-film music. But why the switch -- and to an Italian print? I suppose we should be grateful the entire film wasn't subbed.

Anyway, I'm glad I wasn't losing my mind entirely.

TCM is getting weird.

[–] lorrainearmstrongfl 9 years ago

Perhaps it was the best of the preserved versions of these portions of the film. Don't forget that film preservation is a relatively new advent. There are films from as late as the 70s that have been lost.