Five scenes


If it wasn't just for the dinner scene, the shower scene, the stair scene, the cellar scene and the end scene, wouldn't this 56yr old movie be completely forgotten by now?

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Well, maybe, yes.

I mean some would say that if it weren't for the shower scene ALONE, the movie would be completely forgotten by now. But since this is just about the most known scene in movie history...only one scene is necessary.

That said, some other thoughts, if I may:

Howard Hawks on what makes a good movie: "Three good scenes, no bad scenes."

Psycho famously has three big shock scenes that often get shown as the sole clips from the film: the shower murder, the staircase murder, and the fruit cellar reveal.

So there's Hawks' "three good scenes."

No bad scenes? I agree -- but some might not. Many think that the shrink scene is a bad scene, and screenwriter William Goldman thought Psycho is a rare bird because the shrink scene is an AWFUL scene..."and yet the movie is a glory."

Goldman further noted that the end of a movie is the most important part and noted that Psycho "hides the end" (the cell scene) behind a "a bad end"(the shrink scene.) Hard to follow.

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Me, I think that Psycho is one of those very, very, very rare films in which EVERY scene is good. And something cinematic is happening in every scene.

Take the "potentially dull scene" when Sam and Lila first talk to the sheriff and his wife at their home. How Hitchcock frame the sheriff against his staircase, and how Hitchcock "groups" Sam and Lila and the Sheriff with cuts to the wife in between: cinema.

The opening scene has a great camera move into the hotel room, and is landmark sexy(yet sad.)

The "Arbogast questions Norman " scene is a marvel of naturalistic staccato patter(and has the great cinema of the swoop under Norman's bobbing throat.)

The cop stop scene and the car lot scene are models of paranoia(with some ironic humor)...

...and so forth and so on.

I'd say Psycho has oh, about 25 good scenes. Is that how many scenes are in the movie?

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If it wasn't just for the dinner scene, the shower scene, the stair scene, the cellar scene and the end scene, wouldn't this 56yr old movie be completely forgotten by now?
It's hard to think of *any* movie that would be able to lose 5 key scenes and still be a 10/10 or A+ movie with 50+ year staying-power. Casablanca without the ending, the Paris flashback, the Marseillaise, Rick and Ilsa maeeting over 'As Time Goes By', and maybe a few more is unmemorable I'd say. Ben Hur without the chariot race scene is the forgotten The Robe.

I'd also put Psycho on the list of movies whose scores are so fundamental to their impacts (see also Star Wars, Jaws, ET, Taxi Driver, Chinatown, Magnificent 7, Breakfast at Tiffanys, Sweet Smell of Success, Gone With The Wind, Of Mice and Men) that take away those scores and they're mostly forgotten.

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That's like saying "wouldn't HAMLET be forgotten if it weren't for that 'soiled flesh speech, the 'play's the thing' speech, the 'to be or not to be' speech, the soliloquy in the chapel, and the "ripeness is all" speech ?" Well, yes,most works of art would be ruined if you yanked out their 5 high points. (The vast majority would be ruined if you cut their 2 best scenes) What is that supposed to prove?

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I guess that people who are used to the new breed of garbage horror....undeveloped and unsympathetic characters getting butchered every 5 minutes would be bored by a movie that actually develops it's characters, slowly builds it's suspense, and comes in for a strong finish. These are the same people who call The Exorcist and The Shining "boring" movies. So, that said, I'll just consider the source.

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I think if you took five iconic scenes out of any classic film then they would inevitably be far less memorable. But completely forgotten? I doubt it.



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Some film are remembered for just one scene. I think that Hitchcock liked to get 5 memorable scenes into each of his movies which is why none of them are forgotten to this day.

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