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This movie is not about creationism vs. evolution


Because a bitter conflict between the beliefs of creationists and evolutionists is at the heart of the action of the story, it's easy to see that conflict as the story's point. Let's back up a little and take another look.

That real point is, as Drummond stresses, the right and freedom to think. He stresses over and over that his client may technically be on trial for teaching a disputed theory in violation of a state law, but he's really on trial for thinking. Drummond uses the labeling of creationism as an archaic fairy tale to stress that, for Cates or anyone else, there is more than one interpretation of the account of creation in Genesis. It may be literal truth, allegorical truth, or not true at all. This means there is a call to think about it; there are various things to compare, weigh, and from that thought process, conclude. He is saying, in part, and that it is not only permissible, but even obligatory, that people should turn away from seeing blind acceptance of any belief system as strong faith and instead to think it through. If one's thought leads back to that same belief system, that's fine, but the faith is now based on something better than buying into what one has been spoon-fed by someone else.

It is more than safe to say that if a certain set of individuals had followed that advice, the twin towers would still be standing and some 3,000 people now dead would not be.

Ultimately, Cates really did win. The jury could not possibly have properly concluded other than as it did. Cates had violated the state law; that was unquestionable. That the judge, himself a product of the same culture that had bred the vitriolic campaigns against Cates, should assess such a nearly trivial penalty shows how persuasive Drummond was. He could hardly have done more for Cates' benefit. His reaction to Drummond's statement that he intends to appeal seems more relief than challenge.


[Clarence Darrow, the defense attorney in the Scopes trial upon whom the character of Henry Drummond is based, was a famous agnostic, but did not call himself an atheist. These two terms are often confused. An atheist denies the existence of God. An agnostic doubts, but does not actually deny. They are different things. Darrow does flatly deny the more fantastical claims in the Bible, just as Drummond did when he cited the accounts of Joshua making the sun stand still and Jonah and the great fish. He maintains that the Bible was actually cobbled together from the writings of many individuals, and they often conflict. He insists that one cannot believe in God unless the God in which one believes can be visualized, and that historically that has only been possible when God was perceived anthropomorphically, a conclusion I find tenuous at best.]

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Good point. It's unfortunate that the people at whom this film is intended to reach are usually the same people who think that it's about creationism vs. evolution.

As for your last sentence, it seems odd that Darrow would feel that way when something as basic as air cannot be visualized, yet we are all certain that it exists...


"Why do you find it so hard to believe?"
"Why do you find it so easy?"
"It's never BEEN easy!"

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You say: "An atheist denies the existence of God. An agnostic doubts, but does not actually deny."

Not true.

Theism is about belief. Theists are believers. Atheists are not.
Agnosticism is about not knowing. Agnostics do not know (or believe it can be known). I'm not sure if the term "gnostic" is the correct opposite to agnostic, oddly enough, so I'll use non-agnostic.

Non-agnostic Atheists do not believe in god(s) but believe god(s) can be proven or disproven. (Presumably they think it more likely god(s) have been or will be disproven.)

Agnostic Atheists do not believe in god(s) nor that god(s) can be proven or disproven. They've decided not to assume the existence of things without evidence.

Non-agnostic Theists believe in god(s) and that god(s) can be proven or disproven. (Presumably they think it more likely god(s) have been or will be proven.)

Agnostic Theists believe in god(s) but not that god(s) can be proven or disproven. This seems to be the essence of faith.

The terms atheist and agnostic were thrown about interchangeably in the film, mostly as accusations rather than descriptions. It's unfortunate, but it does reflect religious pejorative usages of the terms.

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I do agree that this film isn't about creationism versus evolution, because there was almost no discussion of either topic. Rather it seems to be mainly about religious fundamentalism versus reform (particularly in the post-trial scene with the reporter), the media circus around religious and court issues, and to some degree how mob rule can corrupt a court system.

The case couldn't be about the appropriateness of the law against teaching evolution, because a teacher has no rights to teach what he wishes, or not to teach what he doesn't wish to, if that's in violation of rules or the law. That sort of case would probably have to be brought by parents of students, against the school and state.

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"The case couldn't be about the appropriateness of the law against teaching evolution, because a teacher has no rights to teach what he wishes, or not to teach what he doesn't wish to, if that's in violation of rules or the law. That sort of case would probably have to be brought by parents of students, against the school and state. "

Precisely. The verdict was correct, and any jury, regardless of its members' personal feelings on the subjects of creation, evolution and whether or not to teach it, should have come down as this did.

The place to make allowances for the defendant beyond the letter of the law is in the penalty phase, and this movie got that right as well, fining Cates a trivial amount (maybe not in terms of a week's wages, but compared to what might have been levied in a more conventional case.)

I above said creation and evolution, not vs., because I consider the Bible to be true, but often allegorical. If, as is close to certain, the physical universe we know came about in something like the Big Bang, Genesis's description of creation could hardly deal with that literally, and furthermore, doesn't have to. That part of God's role in all this that needs to be disclosed in the Bible, if one believes, is not in the physics, it's in the spirit.

(Interestingly, a day or two after my most recent viewing of this movie--I'd seen it a number of times before--a jury summons arrived in the mail. I expect this one will be rather less controversial, and interesting.)

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