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hidden, dark psychological phenomenon at base

posted 12 years ago by timothy_fairchild
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The kernel of Gloria's shame was enjoying having had sex at age 13 with an older man. This was not some made-up thing. Any sex therapist will tell you that it is real. Often, young people do not know sex is wrong at that age and are fed lines about love and showing love. I knew a girl who experienced that. She dated my friend. She was a huge slut too. I dated a girl who was used as a sex toy when she was only 8 yrs. old by another girl ten years older than her, her cousin. I lived with her for a while. One night she was searching for her cousin on-line. I asked her why? Did she want to get revenge? No, she said she wanted to maybe hook up and have sex with her again some day. I was surprised but remembered Dr Laura made a similar point about sex survivors she has counseled in private. They are expected to act as if it was a terrible experience, but many confess they enjoyed it, so they are conflicted, having to fake outrage. Now think back to Elizabeth Smart, how she had the chance to talk to the police on the street -- one even asked her her name in public and she refused to say anything. This was months before she was found. On a public street in the presence of a cop! Everyone is trying to find her, and she's not willing to lift a finger to help herself!!!??? All she had to say was, "I'm Elizabeth Smart. Please help me get home" when the cop asked her her name on the sidewalk. She even refused to lift her veil for him. How could that happen? She wasn't some 8 yr. old, but a high-school student. I'd be mad if I were that cop.

[–] PrometheusTree64 12 years ago

Is your point that Elizabeth Smart must have liked the pedophilic sex and that's why she made no more effort to get away?

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LBJ's mistress tells all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPdviZbk-XI&;

[–] deborahkerr1992 11 years ago

Only a pedophile would make a comment like this. Gross

[–] deborahkerr1992 11 years ago

Also if you take a moment to focus on something beside Pedro sex in the Elizabeth Smart case, you will know that she was heavily brainwashed for a long time before they let her out in public. She was told that her family was dead or didn't want her over and over again. The mental chains were firmly on. Perhaps you should consult Dr, Laura about your own underlying issues.

[–] TheLightFantastic 11 years ago

This is the biggest load of sh*t I've read and a textbook example of victim blaming. You obviously base your entire views of sexual abuse victims on one nut you met and lived with who supposedly enjoyed the incestual lesbian relationship she had with a cousin.

I don't know what you heard from Dr. Laura but I bet you twisted whatever she said. She likely met that many victims still care for their abusers and are conflicted about those feelings, not the fact that they enjoyed being abused. When someone you care for does things to hurt you, it doesn't automatically turn off the positive feelings.

And you're way off on the Elizabeth Smart ordeal. She was brainwashed and certain that her family no longer wanted her. If you're told someone daily, hourly even, you begin to accept it as fact. It's called conditioning. We've all undergone some form or another. Read a psychology book. The crap you're spouting is offensive and downright stupid.

[–] goo-goo-ga-ga 9 years ago

I don't see the connection between this film and the Elizabeth Smart case at all. Smart suffered from Stockholm Syndrome.
In this film, the main character was taken advantage of and she believed her value was as an object and not a complete person.