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Poor shlub only has 4 channels!


I liked his couch side channel changer, but the poor man didn't have much to choose from did he?

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Did you also notice that he never went to a network channel? It was around 8:00 at night. Surly he would've checked what was on NBC or CBS. ABC was still in their infancy so he might not have went there. But still, all he did was hit 3 channels that were showing old movies - never one of the networks.

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I guess the movie makers were trying to avoid any trouble with the networks. It was cheaper and easier to just fake channels showing old movies rather than try to cobble together a fictitious network program. I wonder just how many channels were available on tv in New York back then?

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That channel changer remote was state-of-the-art. I didn't know anyone who had one. The channel changer on the front of our TV was broken so my Dad fashioned one out of a piece of sturdy wire that wrapped around the nub. If you wanted to change the channel that was how it was done.

I don't remember changing the channel when the commercials came on. That was the time to do the dishes, gather snacks, do homework. I can sympathize with him for only watching old movies. Network TV could be pretty bleak in those days. (Not like now LOL).

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Agreed. Then again, the kids parked 3 inches from the tube could be called on to change the channel.

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LOL I remember we had an old black and white set with a broken knob. My dad had to change the channels with a pair of vise grips.

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Believe NYC only had VHF channels at that time, so there would have been 7. Wikipedia has the US network schedules since TV broadcasting began, if you want to see what was really on. Mostly westerns: 28 of them spread across the 3 networks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959%E2%80%9360_United_States_network_television_schedule

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So, then the movie is very accurate!

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Well, he's watching on a weekday night in what I assume is November or December 1959. He could've tuned into the likes of OZZIE & HARRIET, THE DENNIS O'KEEFE SHOW, THE DONNA REED SHOW, WAGON TRAIN, KRAFT MUSIC HALL STARRING PERRY COMO, JOHNNY STACCATO, THE FORD SHOW w/TENNESSEE ERNIE FORD, TIGHTROPE or THE MANY LOVES OF DOBIE GILLIS.
"May I bone your kipper, Mademoiselle?"

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So no wonder he went to the indie channels to find a movie.

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And to think he could watch GH tonight on TCM with no commercial interruptions!

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Four channels were enough, many things to do besides watch tv. Ahhh, youth!

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no golf channel?



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The NYC channels in 1959 were 2 (CBS), 4 (NBC), 5 (former Dumont), 7 (ABC), 9, 11, 13. Believe it or not, the 11:00PM show on ABC on Sunday was the Dick Clark World of Talent.

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If you lived in Manhattan in 1959, reception could be iffy or nonexistent on some channels, which would explain his limited choice.

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13 was still an indie before it went NET/PBS/Public TV

So it would have been possible for movies to be on 4 channels in prime time.

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9 and 11 were local stations that mostly showed movies from the 1930s and stuff like Little Rascals, Abbott and Costello, Three Stooges and some children's shows. They went off the air overnight and if you turned them on too early in the morning you got the test pattern. Channel 9, WOR, broadcast Million Dollar Movie for decades to the music from Gone With the Wind. Channel 11 showed Yankees games. I don't remember Channel 13; it later became the PBS station but I don't think there was much on it before then. So basically we had five channels.

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Channel 13 was a local channel like 9 and 11.

And ALL stations went off overnight, even the network affiliates.

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I miss getting up early and seeing test patterns. But then, my dad had an electronics business so he could explain what all the stuff on the screen was used for.

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Yup, that's how I remember them: 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13. I seem to recall channel 8 being among them - a PBS or independent station of some sort. I forget when UHF became part of the mix, but it was pretty limited and rudimentary. And, even in the NYC market, there wasn't 24-hour programming. Long about 3 or 4 AM, things shut down, with nothing but test patterns to stare at (something today's viewers wouldn't be aware of). I recall one of the channels showing more movie reruns than the others; there was The Early Show (starting about 8pm), The Late Show (at 10-ish), The Late, Late Show (at around midnight), followed finally by The Late, Late, Late Show at about 2am. Then the iconic test pattern, followed by the Star Spangled Banner and the early-morning shows at about five. Until cable came along, that was it.

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we could never get Channel 9 to come in clear and it sucked anyway!

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Are you kidding? CHannel 9 had Million DOllar Movie, where you could see the same film for a week and memorize all the dialogue, which was especially a treat with Abbott and Costello films.

ANd before they moved to LA, 9 had the Brooklyn DOdgers.

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For whatever reason it was exactly the same in L.A.. 2(KNXT [CBS]), 4(KNBC), 5(local KTLA), 7(KABC), 9(local KHJ), 11(local KTTV), 13(local KCOP). IIRC KCET PBS was on channel 6.


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You're trying to bring you 2013 reality to a 1959 movie. And it's only a movie, for chrissakes, which has nothing to do with reality. Nobody pees in a movie, either. They get out of bed, get dressed, and out the door without a BM. Why don't you question that, while you're at it?

I grew up in New York, and we had seven channels. That's it. How old are you, 14?

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Oh my. Someone poked your cage, didn't they? Why do you have to spoil the topic by being angry and sarcastic? Of course we know this isn't reality, we're not DUMB!! Come on, now be nice.

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Well, you were the one who was concerned with accuracy.

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In Britain they only had 2 channels in 1960. And unless you paid for satellite or cable TV, you only got 4 channels until Channel 5 came along in the late 90s.

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I grew up with only two channels, so he was twice as fortunate.

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In Phoenix,Az in the 1970s we only had ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS. I don't remember cable being available until the 1980s. We watched lots of 1960 reruns. Gilligans Island and Lost in Space were after school favorites of mine.

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NO ONE had more than 4 channels.

And the reason he only saw movies on TV was for the purpose of showing something on TV. Showing actual TV would have shown a big black line repeating on the screen because live TV was broadcast at a slower rate than what the eye sees. So they faked movie channels to show something on the screen.

You don't think we always had cable or satellite TV, do you?

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New York had more than 4 channels in 1959 as pointed out before.

2-WCBS
4-WNBC
5-WNEW
7-WABC
9-WOR
11-WPIX
13-WNTA

5,9,11,13 were all independents and would be showing movies in prime time.

13 didn't become a public broadcaster till 1962

So yes, he could get more,but for the purpose of the film showing just the movie shows was funny.

oh, and later in the film he mentions prime time network shows such as Ed Sullivan,Perry Como,etc.

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