Why only two seasons?
Just curious why this show, which in my opinion excellant, was only to run for two seasons. Well done, with effective stories, it deserved a longer run.
shareJust curious why this show, which in my opinion excellant, was only to run for two seasons. Well done, with effective stories, it deserved a longer run.
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I agree with you on the number of episodes in the two seasons. Perhaps someone can illuminate us on the reason for cancellation though.
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Low ratings. If it had high ratings, it would've been renewed for a third
year.
This is one of the most uneven TV shows I have ever watched. Dreadful,
dull, slow, much to the time, with an occasional dip into a spooky offering.
But, frankly, after viewing them all on Youtube, I would never spend
the (overpriced) money for this show, as I would hardly watch any of
them more than once, maybe twice. Too many duds.
I agree with gbennett5, I'm not surprised by only two seasons! It really wasn't that great and most of the episodes left you hanging like WTH! Either didn't tie up any loose ends or just plain didn't make sense! Alfred Hitchcock Hour and Presents were a lot better! Even with Boris Karloff hosting.. it always bothers me that he doesn't chime in at the end to add some sort of closure!
This is one of the most uneven TV shows I have ever watched. Dreadful,
dull, slow, much to the time, with an occasional dip into a spooky offering.
But, frankly, after viewing them all on Youtube, I would never spend
the (overpriced) money for this show, as I would hardly watch any of
them more than once, maybe twice. Too many duds.
Yes, Hitchcock, who had just expanded his series to one hour, made sure that "Thriller" was killed - and I gather the network wasn't sufficiently around it. The show was just finding its way, as early in the 1st season there were episodes that were decidedly melodramatic, without the edgy supernatural or murderous themes that developed later.
But as to the show quality? You have to remember - this was 1961 - 1962. How much from that era has anyone watched recently? Can anyone even sit through "The Twilight Zone" anymore? Almost all of the classic Rod Serling episodes now regarded as classic are unbearably slow and laughably innocent by today's standards. Virtually nothing stands up - and I am not even talking about the black and white photography which bothers so many (those not raised in what is now considered a "classic film" environment). Of all of those early tv shows, the only ones I have seen that actually make it are the Perry Mason episodes from the 1st season only, which comparatively move quickly - there was so much plot information needed, the shows are brisk - and Perry was, for that season only, morally ambiguous. Then it settled into a dull routine.
But "Thriller" was THE show to watch. It was a tough watch for kids in the 1960s - episodes like "The Cheaters" "Pigeons From Hell" "The Incredible Doktor Markeson" "The Grim Reaper" "The Hungry Glass" (these last two starring William Shatner), "A Wig for Miss Devore", "Parasite Mansion" and a few others were the absolute height of 1960s terror. Really. "Psycho" in theatres had lifted the boundaries and even television was following suit....but it was only "Thriller" that really picked up the ball and ran with it.
Watching them today may be a disappointment, but has anyone lately watched the 1968 "Night of the Living Dead", then unmatched for sheer terror and gore effects?
It's not entirely fair to judge those wonderful old episodes with what has happened since...but I acknowledge the experience cannot be recreated. Trust me when I say that "Thriller", at its height, for the two years it ran, was far and away above the grade of the Hitchcock show. Which may also have contributed to the reason why Hitch had it killed.
Can anyone even sit through "The Twilight Zone" anymore?
Trust me when I say that "Thriller", at its height, for the two years it ran, was far and away above the grade of the Hitchcock show. Which may also have contributed to the reason why Hitch had it killed.
Good answer - and by the way, The Twilight Zone's "To Serve Man" - I saw it in its premiere air date. Perfect example: that episode gave me profound nightmares for weeks....I couldn't sleep at all that night. I was 10. Thriller had the same impact. It did not have low ratings, I believe - in any event, all the kids at school watched it, it was widely discussed, etc. Now, I don't have the Neilsen reports from 1961 - 1962, but I can say if the show was do-not-miss in small town somewhere in the Midwest, then it probably had similar fans across the universe. Which is why Stephen King remembers it so.
I have the full collection DVD, and the other night, I rewatched "The Cheaters" and "The Hungry Glass". Yes, okay - they're old. By today's standards, impossibly slow. The scripting dullish and the guest stars (actually pretty top grade - in addition to a lot of Shatner, there is Mildred Dunnock, Henry Daniell (who worked everywhere at the end), Jack Weston, Constance Ford, Edward Arnold, many others) uneven - sometimes they are fabulous. The music is by Jerry Goldsmith and is usually fabulous - much higher grade than you'd expect, but then this was the era when you had Nelson Riddle's great Route 66 theme, and Henry Mancini's classic Peter Gunn theme - tv music back in the day often a far, far grade above today's dim product.
But I am quite sure few can watch Thriller today with any sense of admiration or understanding without the underpinnings of deep understanding of classic television had come from. I mean, in the day, we weren't that far removed from Milton Berle, I Love Lucy, My Little Margie, I Married Joan, Your Show of Shows, December Bride, /i] all the Desilu product...and by the early 1960s audiences were demanding more for the first time, with shows like [i]Route 66, Dr. Kildare, The Defenders, Perry Mason, The Twilight Zone, One Step Beyond (impossibly dull today), The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Andy Griffith Show, many more. Tastes were changing. And I doubt any show on television had showed blood before. Gore effects? For the era, Thriller was stomach churning simply because nothing but nothing had pre-existed. And most of the episodes had bleak, bleak, bleeeeeaaaaakkk endings.
So when I read criticism about the show's slowness and other problems, I have to sadly concur that without a full appreciation of the turbulent 1960s, when we were barely emerging from the bland, racist, neurotic, and deeply troubled postwar 1950s - remember, much of the country still was segregated, fer crissakes, and everyone was afraid of The Commies - you just have to understand that Thriller was deeply in the Zeitgeist. Maybe it was so wonderful because Hitchcock did kill it - it died young. But ratings problems? Quality problems? Not scary enough? Bosh. You just don't know the 1960s. Understandable if you were not there.
Trust me. Thriller was the show not to miss. After all, it inspired Stephen King, didn't it? And no doubt thousands more.
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'I have to sadly concur that without a full appreciation of the turbulent 1960s, when we were barely emerging from the bland, racist, neurotic, and deeply troubled postwar 1950s - remember, much of the country still was segregated, fer crissakes, and everyone was afraid of The Commies - you just have to understand that Thriller was deeply in the Zeitgeist.'
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Yeah,naturally let's find a way to incorporate politics and war and segregation and racism and constipation into why a tv show worked or didn't work, so we can feel on-top-of it. Every decade is known for being 'turbulent', it seems.
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I agree with Sandfree's assessment here. Thriller is best appreciated in the context of the times. As a result, those not born in the second generation to grow up with television might erroneously compare the series to those of later decades. For its time, Thriller's best episodes are bone-chilling delights, and the black and white cinematography creates that dark and suspenseful mood that so enhances the ambiance of the horror film genre.
shareI'm far younger than the second generation to have TV, and I really enjoy Thriller. I watch every weeknight on MeTV. I think commenters here are underestimating the show, but to each her own.
shareCan anyone even sit through "The Twilight Zone" anymore?
Can anyone even sit through "The Twilight Zone" anymore?
This is actually BS, sorry. It was not at all uncommon, in this era especially, for popular shows to simply end or be replaced for one reason or another. The Munsters and The Addams Family were both very popular, but each only had two seasons. Gilligan's Island was one of the most beloved shows on TV, yet it only had three seasons.
In the case of Thriller specifically, it was actually a fairly popular show. The reason it got cancelled, simply put, is because Alfred Hitchcock had it cancelled. I love the man as a director, but in a severely dick move, Alfred Hitchcock Presents was set to become The Alfred Hitchcock Hour, and he felt it "just wouldn't do" to have TWO hour-long mystery/thriller shows on TV. IE He didn't want the competition. He wanted his show to be the only game in town.
That is the unfortunately truth. Otherwise, Thriller likely would have received at least a third season.
Apparently its rating dropped with the expansion of ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS to THE ALFRED HITCHCOCK HOUR.
"In my case, self-absorption is completely justified."
Sandfree is NUTS. Pure and simple. "Thriller" is a weak TV show, with
very, very few episodes worth watching ONCE, let alone twice. TZ, by
comparison, is exceptional, even with the clunkers. TZ also wasn't
just "horror", but a series that examined man's inhumanity to man. The
series has a dream-like quality, and it's best offerings are still a
marvel. The problem, too, is that so many fans of TZ (as well as
"Thriller" and the awful "One Step Beyond") are only interested in horror
or sci fi, and fail to appreciate something like "Walking Distance", a
show so haunting and beautiful, it is beyond timeless.
AHP is also incomprably better that "Thriller", with far more - and
stronger, crisper - episodes.
King was often off the mark. He also wrote that the 1961 series "Bus
Stop", featured the "scariest" episode of TV ever...an offering that
"hasn't been beaten, before or since." It's called "I Kiss Your
Shadow" with Joanne Linville and George Grizzard. Well, I finally
watched it on Youtube. Not only is it NOT scary (by any standards),
it's slow, padded and dull. In other words, it plays like your
average episode of "Thriller." So much for King's recommendations.
I think one part of Thriller's modern appeal, is that it's presence in syndication has been limited over the past 50 years. With it's appearance on MeTV, many of us are seeing these episodes for the first time since we were children, or for younger viewers, the very first time.
The Twilight Zone seemingly has been shown 5 nights a week on some channel, somewhere, for the last 40 years. Many of us have seen the episodes so many times, we have them memorized. They don't retain the same impact anymore.
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So, eelb, you've seen TZ over and over for 40 years and they've lost
"impact." Okay. Do you honestly think you could sit through "Thriller"
episodes four or five times, let alone over many decades??? I doubt it.
"Night Gallery" was also cheesy, coming nowhere near TZ's earlier
classic.
As for "growing up in the '80s", I pity you. That decade was bad enough
for those of us who were young adults.
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How am I a "weirdo" because I hated that decade, which boasts the WORST
music, the worst movies, and the WORST President??
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No,this decade boasts the worst president,bar none! I loved many of the movies of the 80's,from the Back to the Future movies,to the Ghostbuster movies and the Poltergeist movies.I guess because the 80's didn't feature drugged-out hippies like the "great" 1960's,or the biggest,socialist,imperialist president as this decade has,that makes the 1980's the worst decade? Please!
shareI see somebody's still all butthurt that Obama got bin Laden after your big hero George W. Bush couldn't stop the worst terror attack ever on American soil and then said the guy responsible for it wasn't somebody he thought about too much.
I'm so glad brother JEB! has been a non-starter! Especially after he bragged about George keeping us safe. That was too stupid even for the GOP Trump supporters.
Janet! Donkeys!
So, eelb, you've seen TZ over and over for 40 years and they've lost
"impact." Okay. Do you honestly think you could sit through "Thriller"
episodes four or five times, let alone over many decades??? I doubt it.
"Night Gallery" was also cheesy, coming nowhere near TZ's earlier
classic.
As for "growing up in the '80s", I pity you. That decade was bad enough
for those of us who were young adults.
I've read that Alfred Hitchcock demanded the end of Thriller as a condition of bringing his own brand of horror to television. Why bother to compete with a similar anthology series when you have the clout to squash it entirely?
shareHitchcock had a 30 minute show on CBS dating back to 1955. In 1960, he switched to NBC, where the same 30 minute format continued to 1962. In the 1962 fall season, he went back to CBS, where the show was expanded to 1 hour. NBC brought him back in the fall of 1964, with the 1 hour show.
Apparently the Hitchcock show and Thriller coexisted on NBC during the 1961-62 season. Likely provoking Hitchcock into demanding a 1 hour show, as Thriller had. NBC refused, and he bolted back to CBS for the 1963-64 season. NBC realized their mistake, and cancelled Thriller at the end of the 1962 season, and brought Hitchcock back in the 1 hour format for 1964. I imagine there was some negotiating going on between Thriller's cancellation in 1962, and Hitchcock's reappearance on NBC in 1964.
Hitchcock had great audience appeal, and had been in the forefront of film making in that era. Boris Karloff, was mainly known as Frankenstein from the 1930's, and younger viewers didn't relate to him. Hitchcock's name carried bigger clout, regardless of the comparative quality of the two shows.
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Bethany444 There's a detailed answer to the two-season question at bobbrakemanmovies.com (#846), although I think some of the posts on this thread are also correct.
To me this is a no-brainer. I have to agree with the other posters in this thread.
Lately I've been watching heaps of "Twilight Zone" and "Alfred Hitchcock Hour" episodes.
The latter is still damn-good with gripping plots, clever writing, and good acting to this day. Their twists are expertly applied, even if some of them come off as merely done for entertainment purposes. But boy, do they deliver. They're stellar in every way. The one that aired last night with the actor from "Quantum Leap" in his earlier years, where he's holding a conversation with the corpse as the sirens are heard in the background, was beautifully poetic even if a bit strange. I haven't seen a bad AHH yet. Even the lesser stellar episodes are still good.
As for "The Twilight Zone," the same thing applies. So many themes in those episodes still hold up beautifully today. Every now and then one is a bit preachy or explanatory. But that's to be expected from time to time. TTZ is golden to this day, and one of the more thrilling, epically thought-provoking ventures in television history. When that routine intro monolog at the beginning of most episodes ends with those four classic words, "...in the Twilight Zone," it's a liberating rush enough to give anyone goosebumps.
Even the lesser "Night Gallery" series by the same great Serling comes through with strong episodes as a nice though brief continuation to TTZ, despite being less tightly woven or finely crafted than its predecessor.
This "Thriller" show, on the other hand, is downright weak. I've seen a few episodes recently and the only solid one is the one with the three Italian brothers. But even then, the show seems to take itself to seriously with plots that are too dramatic or acting that just never feels very smooth. The episode with the pair of glasses that allowed its wearer to psychically pick up on the next man or woman's thoughts was solid, I guess. What a weak show overall, though. It's really dif ficult to watch after viewing the superior "Twilight Zone," "Night Gallery," and "Alfred Hitchcock Hour" night after night. And "Thriller" has the nerve to come on last of the bunch.
Even its host's introduction is corner with the, "...tonight's key players are..." as if going through a run-down feature of all the stars playing in the night's teleplay is supposed to impress the viewer. And then the enthusiastic "...as sure as my name is such-and-such... this... is... ... a thriller." Damn. Even its introduction is as weak as the rest of the show. Strange. Someone didn't put their heart or their full thinking cap ability into this.
I'm not a control freak, I just like things my way
I'll admit Thriller doesn't have the affect on me now, that it did as a child. Too many similar plot lines, the most often being the haunted house scenario. It's amazing how those houses are the center piece in so many episodes.
The introduction by Karloff, seems so over the top, and tongue in cheek now. As a kid, just his foreboding appearance scared the heck out of me. Now I see him as a washed up old actor, paid to be a front man for a TV show.