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Two completely different women from Jack and Tony.


Really, they could have found Josephine and Daphne anywhere and made them into anyone, but what those two men found where so incredibly dissimilar!

Tony went all elegant and refined, real lady like, while Jack became this loud, flirty, wonderfully snarky and bombastic female.

I just gotta say, well done.




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And let's not forget to credit the actor who dubbed Tony's "girl" voice, He did. He was always too busy dishing Marilyn, whose entire performance was her own.

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... okay?

Right, I know Tony wasn't the most considerate fellow on the planet, and he told his share of tall tales, but can we take a break from that and perhaps appreciate his performance without jumping on his slowly rotting bones? Jeez.

And honestly, Marilyn was a one of a kind and a wonderful performer, when she managed to get it right. Lovely person and an extraordinary human being, but she was troubled and inconsiderate and a bit of a diva when it came to actually working as an actor. Even Jack Lemmon, one of the SWEETEST actors we've been blessed with, was kinda taken aback by the troubles she had doing the simplest of scene, all due to her "method" of acting and perhaps to the abuse of drugs she apparently underwent. Yes, her life was a whirlwind of chaos, but I mean, you can't act the way she did on set, it simply isn't okay.

LOVE HER TO PIECES, don't get me wrong, but she was no saint.

But anyway, by all means! Bravo to the voice dubber who mixed her voice with Tony's to get that super creepy Josephine tone. Now, let us simply ignore the rest of the performance done by Tony because he was such a pill.

Have a good one, man. ;)




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No, let's not forget his performance, because it was terrific. But when people finally get off MM's rotting bones, and disregard her "behavior" and concentrate on her work, maybe people like me will allow Curtis' downright vicious tales (she was pregnant with HIS child during "SLIH"?!!) to be ignored.

She WAS difficult, but so was he and so was Wilder, for that matter. As for the brilliant Jack Lemmon, he told his share of whoppers re Marilyn, because I suppose he thought it was funny and okay--she was dead and unable to defend herself.

At the NYC premiere of "Hot" the very first words out of MM's mouth were, "isn't Jack Lemmon GREAT?"

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No, I know Tony was SO full of it. And I truly think Marilyn gave a great performance, when she was able to. And no kidding, Wilder was a crazy person (albeit a brilliant one). I don't know how Jack ever managed seven movies with him. XD

But I've never heard Jack Lemmon say anything about Marilyn that seemed untrue, or anything particularly nasty. I've looked for such quotes and I can't find them. For the most part, all I can find is him saying, "Difficult, but super charismatic," or some other bit of praise, before telling a story about her having trouble with that "Where's that bourbon," line or him and Tony taking bets on how many takes she'd need to get the scene done. These are stories accounted by many others, on other films as well.

And from what I could tell, he was always very sweet to Marilyn on set (besides his shenanigans and unkindness with Tony)

Though if he did say terrible things about her, I'd love to know about it; he's one of my very favorite actors, and for that matter people, in the history of ever, but if he was unjust towards a costar I think I'd like to know about it.






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Yeah, Jack was pretty kind, but he picked up a couple Tony's stories along the way--MM "stealing" one of the dresses meant for Jack (absurd) one or two others, and the odd fact that as the years went on everybody kept adding more and more "takes" to the infamous "where's the bourbon" scene. I find all the players in that event guilty of unprofessional behavior. And in the end, as is quite obvious, MM's line was dubbed in post-production--since her back was to the camera, Wilder needed to go no further than five takes before saying, "darling, don't worry, we'll dub it in."

Great film and great performances all around. Yes, even Mr. Curtis.

The thing about her endless need for re-takes. She was supposed to be at the end of her rope during the filming of "something's Got to Give." Yet the HOURS of outtakes show MM flubbing very little, but George Cukor demanding her repeat a perfect take over and over. Her reaction--compliant, pleasant and giggling when she did flub. Where was the iniquitous monster of previous films--if we are to believe every negative tale?

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Yeah, I suppose it's sort of amazing how these Hollywood stories would grow and become outrageous. Especially when concerning one as iconic and known as Marilyn. Thank you for shedding some knowledge on me, m'dear! ♥

Now, back to the topic, Jack Lemmon flirting with/brushing off Joe E. Brown in that uproariously girlish fashion shall never get old for me. XD







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I notice there's a lot of these stories about difficult actors, fighting on a movie set, etc. Who knows what's true, most of it's gossip anyway, about dead people who never have a chance to defend themselves.

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