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Is Aurora Disney's only double queen?


By "single" or "double" I mean with respect to their own kingdoms as well as their husbands'.

There are a couple of single queens or princess/queen combos, but I can't think of any other double queens.

Aurora is the only child in her family, so she will be queen of her own kingdom. And Phillip is heir to his kingdom, so as his wife Aurora will be queen there, too.

It's possible Snow White is one, but its not expressly stated. She seems to be the only child in her own kingdom (so would be queen one day) but I don't recall if her prince is ever stated to be the heir of his kingdom (he may have an older brother). So she's either a double queen or queen/princess.

Ariel looks like a queen/princess. Eric seems to be an only child, so will become king. But Ariel is Triton's youngest daughter, so it doesn't seem like she would ever be a monarch under the sea, even if she was still a mermaid.

The others -- Cinderella, Frog Princess, Rapunzel, Jasmine, Elsa, Ana -- are either single princesses or single queens.

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They MERGED the kingdoms after they got married. So instead of Phillip's Kingdom and Aurora's Kingdom, it's Phillip and Aurora's kingdom.

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"Our children will marry, our Kingdoms unite"

With Aurora and Philips marriage they merged the two Kingdoms into one, so no Aurora wasn't a double Queen.

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Aurora was still a princess at the end. I think Elsa is Disney's only Queen (as the main character). For all we know, Aurora died before she inherited the throne. Otherwise, I guess technically Ariel was a princess who married a prince. Snow White was a princess who married a prince.

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Aurora was still a princess at the end.


With Aurora and several of the others, it depends on when exactly they or their husbands would ascend the throne. They don't necessarily have to wait until the current monarch, if there even is one, dies--he/she could voluntarily step down. In these cases generally it is not definitely known by the ends of their respective movies. Here is a rundown of the usual suspects (much of this has already been covered):

Snow White - Born a princess, and with no wedding shown, still a princess by the end, although with the death of the Evil Queen maybe the kingdom will now be hers to rule--it's uncertain exactly what her status is. The intention seems to be that she will stay a princess or become a queen consort in another kingdom someday, depending on whether her prince is heir to the throne there. Either their kingdoms will be united or she has older siblings (who had been imprisoned) who will ascend the throne--it doesn't seem to matter for this story.

Cinderella - With a wedding at the end became either a princess or queen consort, depending on whether the king chose to step down (probably didn't, so she's probably a princess for the time being). Will someday become a queen consort if she hadn't already.

Aurora - Born a princess, and with no wedding shown, still a princess by the end. As for her future status, with the two kingdoms being united like this, who knows what WDAS were thinking? Usually it's the dude who gets to rule, and if that's the case here, then Aurora will be Phillip's queen consort.

Ariel - Born a mermaid princess, became a human (leaving her previous world behind), and married to become a human queen consort to Eric, who presumably ascended the throne upon his marriage to Ariel. Either that or he still has to come of age, in which case Ariel will remain a princess for a while longer.

Belle - Born a commoner, she will marry to become Adam's queen consort...unless he stays a "prince" because that is one weird kingdom, anyway.  As for her status at the end of the movie, maybe she's married already and maybe not yet.

Jasmine - Born a princess, she might be either a princess or queen consort (or whatever you would call a sultan's wife), depending on when Aladdin would become sultan. At least that's what it looks like, although for all we know she might rule equally as a sultana.

Pocahontas - Daughter of an elected chief of the Powhatan Nation/Confederacy, so not really a princess. That said, effectively it was kind of a monarchy in some ways, so maybe she could be viewed as a princess--she was born one (if her father had been chief for that long--it's often a lifetime gig) and remained one at the end.

Mulan - Has nothing to do with royalty or power whatsoever, except for the emperor thinking that she's pretty awesome. 

Tiana - Born a commoner, and married Prince Naveen to become a princess by the end. He doesn't appear to be the heir to a throne, so Tiana will likely stay a princess.

Rapunzel - Born a princess, she remains a princess at the end. That said, she is apparently an only child, and will presumably therefore eventually become the queen regnant (the ruling monarch, female edition) of Corona, with Eugene Fitzherbert as her prince consort.

Merida - Listed as an "official" Disney Princess(TM) by the Disney Consumer Products division, she's not even a WDAS character, as Brave is a Pixar movie, so never mind.

Elsa - Born a princess and groomed as heir to the throne (first child), she ascended the throne at age 21 as queen regnant of Arendelle, and remains so at the end (after stints in self-imposed isolation on a mountain and then in prison for murder and treason ). Elsa is the only Disney princess to become a reigning monarch during her movie; Rapunzel is the only other known crown princess (female heir to the throne), although Snow White is a possibility, and who knows, maybe Aurora is, too.

Anna - Born a princess, and remains one at the end of her movie (will presumably marry a commoner, Kristoff Bjorgman).


I think Elsa is Disney's only Queen (as the main character).


Among the princess characters Elsa is the only known (for sure) queen regnant within her movie's timeline. Most of the monarchs in WDAS movies are kings, with only two exceptions that immediately spring to mind: the Evil Queen in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and Queen Elsa in Frozen (the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland sure seems to rule, but that may just be de facto rather than official, since she has such a...forceful personality). The rest of WDAS' queens seem to be queens consort--the wives of the monarchs and mothers of their heirs (not to put them down, but they're not the actual rulers of their kingdoms). As noted above, some of the other princesses are potentially (due to the uncertainty of some facts) queens consort by the ends of their movies, but nevertheless only Elsa reigns as the monarch.

Of course, I'm only talking about the "standard" Disney princess characters that many people are familiar with. I could throw in Kida, for example, to complicate matters. Apparently she, like Elsa, became a queen regnant during her movie, but nobody cares about her, right? 

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The issue of who is going to be a monacrch in disney films often dosent make much sense. For example, in Aladin we see he comes from nothing, not even a mnor nobel house he is literallly a homelees boy. In the film Jasmine threaens Jafar that once she becomes Queen, she will get rid of him. That seems to imply that she will be Queen with or without husband. It dosent really make much sense that the man she would marry would end up being the Monarch. That woud suggest that the people would be subjected to the rule of a foreigner. On the side note there is no such thing as a sultana. In history there have been situations were there are two monarchs married to each other, Mary of scots and her husband Henry of france, Isabella and Ferdinand both ruled there own respective kingdoms together. The co-monarchs william and mary are another example of there being two rulers. The marriage of Mary 1 and Phillip of spain was one of the few unsuccessful marriages were the people(Marys) were against the match. It took a toll on the marriage, which there was no love and was only for political purposes. Phillip basicallly abandoned his wife when they failed to produce a child and she died shortly after. Snowwhite is a bit ambiguous to what her status was after her stepmother died. If her father was king and she was his only child and her stepmother was his wife, she had no claim to the throne. The only way she were to have power was if she were regent in the minority of the Monarch, but snow white was a princess. Idk, can't put much thougght into disneey logic.

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The issue of who is going to be a monacrch in disney films often dosent make much sense.


Ultimately Disney do whatever works for their stories, and I think that contrary to typical reality, in their minds kings and queens are co-heads of state.


For example, in Aladin we see he comes from nothing, not even a mnor nobel house he is literallly a homelees boy.


Well, it's the same as Cinderella, Belle, and Tiana coming from nothing, as far as Disney are concerned.


In the film Jasmine threaens Jafar that once she becomes Queen, she will get rid of him. That seems to imply that she will be Queen with or without husband.


No, at that point, before her father casually changed the law later on, Jasmine was going to be married whether it was against her will or not. Then she would get rid of Jafar, but for now she had no power, even over her own life.


It dosent really make much sense that the man she would marry would end up being the Monarch. That woud suggest that the people would be subjected to the rule of a foreigner.


Well, he's the protagonist of the movie with his own little Cinderella story--realism doesn't necessarily apply, and I'm just guessing what Disney might have been thinking anyway.


On the side note there is no such thing as a sultana.


So it has never happened in history? Not even in India, for example? This is fiction in any case, and it may well be that the intention was that Jasmine and Aladdin would rule equally.


In history there have been situations were there are two monarchs married to each other, Mary of scots and her husband Henry of france, Isabella and Ferdinand both ruled there own respective kingdoms together. The co-monarchs william and mary are another example of there being two rulers.


That's true, and it is probably what Disney usually have in mind, particularly for Aurora. It's just not 100% clear in this and a number of other Disney animated features.


Snowwhite is a bit ambiguous to what her status was after her stepmother died. If her father was king and she was his only child and her stepmother was his wife, she had no claim to the throne. The only way she were to have power was if she were regent in the minority of the Monarch, but snow white was a princess. Idk, can't put much thougght into disneey logic.


I agree that the Evil Queen would really just be the regent in real life, but I think that Disney literally view her as the queen nevertheless. Perhaps killing Snow White off could be viewed as a play to usurp the throne, although both the fairy tale and the movie only cover the jealousy angle. We can attempt to describe the status and titles of the Disney princesses in real-life terms, but ultimately Disney generally do not go for strict realism in this respect.

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Actually a Sultana was a wife or concubine of a Sultan something similar to a Queen Consort

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You do know there were things called Principality which means a state ruled JUST by a prince. In pre-Revoulation France someone who is distantly related to the ruling family (but not in line to the throne themselves) could be called a prince which means he will never be able to become King of the France. So mostly likely this is the Beast's story (for the 1991 version) so I believe that Belle will be a Princess consort for her entire life well her husband is a Prince.

Tiana-I got the impression that Prince Naveen was the heir to the throne of his country but because he was too much like Britain's Edward VII and the current Prince Harry of England (ie partying) that Naveen's family disowned him which made his little brother (unnamed) the heir-but I'm assuming if something happened to the King&Queen of Naveen's homeland and the brother is too young to rule still-he probably might have to be temporary Regnant for him.

It was implied that Merdia was going to be Queen instead of one of her brothers (probably maybe to prevent a civil war from happening).

Anna could become Queen if Elsa stepped down if not one of Annna's children could if something happened to Elsa and she died without issue.

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In medieval Scotland, if someone like Merida assumed the throne, her brothers would feel obligated to take arms and depose her. That was considered normal family dynamics in those days.

Queen Elsa is extremely unlikely to marry, because of the whole touchy-freezy thing, so Anna is the heir presumptive and her children would probably be the future monarchs. Which kind of rules out marrying a common ice-cutter.

As to the original question, Sleeping Beauty and Snow White seem to be equivalent - princesses who are only children, and rightful heir to their father's kingdom, who are marrying the heir to a different kingdom and presumably both kingdoms will be combined into one nation. Except... do we know that Snow White's prince is the crown prince, or could he be a younger son? And does she have a hope in hell of claiming her father's throne?

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I think it was stated IN the Brave movie that Merida's going to gain the throne. Since if Fergus tries to leave it to one of his sons-there would be civil war both among themselves and from the other clans.

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Aurora is the only child in her family, so she will be queen of her own kingdom. And Phillip is heir to his kingdom, so as his wife Aurora will be queen there, too.


Others have covered this already, but in addition it is necessary to determine who will be the monarch--the actual ruler as opposed to their spouse. As the word implies, there is only ever one monarch in a kingdom, either the king ("king regnant") or the queen ("queen regnant"). The reigning monarch's spouse would be either the "queen consort" or the "prince consort" (less frequently "king consort")--they are not the monarch, although the monarch can grant/delegate some measure of power to them, like they could anyone else.

In the case of Aurora and Phillip, it's kind of ambiguous. WDAS were probably thinking that they would rule as equals, even though that is generally not how monarchies work (it would be an oligarchy, I guess). Either that or more on the traditional, less gender-equal side Phillip would be the king regnant while Aurora would be his queen consort (sort of like how Aladdin apparently became the sultan even with no royal blood--he's a dude, so he's the ruler, as unfair as that may be). I'm not sure how much real thought was actually put into this.


It's possible Snow White is one, but its not expressly stated. She seems to be the only child in her own kingdom (so would be queen one day) but I don't recall if her prince is ever stated to be the heir of his kingdom (he may have an older brother). So she's either a double queen or queen/princess.


There are many possibilities, but we simply don't know the truth.


Ariel looks like a queen/princess. Eric seems to be an only child, so will become king. But Ariel is Triton's youngest daughter, so it doesn't seem like she would ever be a monarch under the sea, even if she was still a mermaid.


The implication is that Ariel gave up her "mermaidhood" in any case. She will be Eric's queen consort in his kingdom.


The others -- Cinderella, Frog Princess, Rapunzel, Jasmine, Elsa, Ana -- are either single princesses or single queens.


Cinderella - queen consort (eventually)
Tiana - princess
Rapunzel - presumably queen regnant in the future (assuming no older/"maler" siblings)
Jasmine - Sultan Aladdin's wife (queen consort equivalent), I guess (ironic)
Elsa - queen regnant during her movie
Anna - princess (also next in line to the throne with substantial authority, unlike Jasmine, for example)

Additionally, Belle will presumably become Adam's queen consort. Pocahontas is not really a princess as her father is an elected official. Mulan is not a princess and is not going to become one--of course, this doesn't diminish her or Pocahontas as characters or people, but we're talking about titles here, and they don't have any (outside of Disney Consumer Products ).

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Actually I was wrong that Sultana's not existing. I was thinking about the wife of a sultan, which do not have that style. However, there have been a few women who ruled in Muslim countries in their own right who went by the title.

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Snow White is an only child and the legitimate queen of her country as the film ends... Except that she's been declared dead TWICE during the course of the film. Which means that some other relatives would then consider himself heir, and grab the throne the minute the stepmother queen died.

So I order to claim her father's throne, Snow White would probably gave to go to her new father-in-law, and ask him to start a war on her behalf... Which is why the film ended when it did.

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Just to complicate things, I'd like to point out that not all titles can be inherited by girls.

In some societies, if the only child is a girl, the inheritance goes to her father's brother or closest male relatives, while the only daughter might get a dowry at best. This was largely true of medieval England, the standard setting for fairy-tale films, where having a ruling queen was considered inconceivable until the Tudor kings ran out of male heirs.

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I should point out when when the monarchs of two kingdoms marry, or when someone inherits two kingdoms from their ancestors, the relationships of the two kingdoms can vary.

A personal union is when the same person is the rulers of two or more kingdoms or fiefs but they are otherwise totally independent of each other.

A personal union is the combination of two or more states that have the same monarch while their boundaries, laws, and interests remain distinct.[1] A real union, by contrast, would involve the constituent states being to some extent interlinked, such as by sharing some limited governmental institutions. In a federation and a unitary state, a central (federal) government spanning all member states exists, with the degree of self-governance distinguishing the two. The ruler in a personal union does not need to be a hereditary monarch.[2]

The term was coined by German jurist Johann Stephan Pütter, introducing it into Elementa iuris publici germanici (Elements of German Public Law) of 1760.[3]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_union

Real union is a union of two or more states, which share some state institutions as in contrast to personal unions; however they are not as unified as states in a political union. It is a development from personal union and was usually limited to monarchies.

Unlike personal unions, real unions almost exclusively led to a reduction of sovereignty for the politically weaker constituent. That was the case with Lithuania, Scotland and Norway which came under the influence of stronger neighbors, Poland, England and Denmark respectively, with whom each of them had shared a personal union previously. The most notable example of such a move is the Kingdom of Hungary (Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen), which achieved equal status to Austria (which exercised control over the "Cisleithanian" crown lands) in in Austria-Hungary following the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867. Sometimes, however, a real union came about after a period of political union.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_union

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Another thing that can happen is that two kingdoms can totally merge and form a new state.

The Kingdom of Burgundy was founded in 879 and the other Kingdom of Burgundy was founded in 887. In 933 Hugh of Arles, King of Burgundy, and Rudolph III, King of Burgundy, both wanted to conquer Italy. So Hugh traded his Kingdom of Burgundy to Rudolph in return for Rudolph giving up his claim to Italy, and the Kingdom of Burgundy and the Kingdom of Burgundy united to form the Kingdom of Arles or Burgundy.

About 1282, the kingdom of Sicily split into two rival kingdoms of Sicily. Many persons became monarch of both kingdoms of Sicily and ruled them in personal unions. In 1816 King Ferdinand III & IV united Sicily and Sicily to form the Kingdom of Two Sicilies, which was conquered in 1860 and became part of the Kingdom of Italy.

In about 1543 King Henry VIII of England made his Lordship of Ireland a kingdom in personal union or in real union with his Kingdom of England.

IN 1603 King James VI of Scotland inherited England and Ireland, and a person union between Scotland on one side and England and Ireland on the other side began, interrupted only the the civil wars and Commonwealth. In 1707 the kingdoms of England and Scotland merged to form the new Kingdom of Great Britain, and the Kingdom of Ireland remained in person union or real union with Great Britain.

In 1800 it was decided to merge Ireland and Great Britain, and on January 1, 1801, King George III of Great Britain, Ireland, and France became King George III of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

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The most common inheritance custom for European kingdoms and fiefs was male preference primogeniture, in which the crown would preferably descend from father to oldest son to grandson to great grandson, etc. But if a king or noble died without sons but had surviving daughters, the oldest daughter would become the next ruler in preference to her uncles or male cousins.

The next most common inheritance custom for European kingdoms and fiefs was agnatic primogeniture, in which the crown would preferably descend from father to son to grandson, but would always be restricted to agnatic (male only) descendants of the founder. The crown could only pass to men, and only to men descended from father to son, etc. from the founder of the dynasty. If the ruler died without sons but with one or more daughters, his closest agnatic relative would become the next ruler, now matter how distant a cousin he might be, and no matter how many daughters the old monarch might have.

So every Disney Prince who is said in the film to be his father's heir is certainly his father's heir, while those Disney Princes who are not said to be their fathers' heirs might or might not be their fathers' heirs depending on whether they have older brothers. In the case of Disney Princesses sometimes we don't know if they have older sisters, and we are almost never told anything about the inheritance laws of their kingdoms. Every Disney Princess who the film says is her father's heir is her father's heir. But if that is not specifically said in the film we can only guess which Disney Princesses might be their father's heirs. Possibly a smaller percentage of princesses than princes were heirs.

When a girl or woman inherited her father's kingdom and became Queen Regnant, her husband often became King Consort jure uxoris "by right of wife". Which spouse made most of the decisions would vary depending on their individual personalities more than on law.

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