Do you think she was raped?


In the movie Laura's rape is questioned. But we really never get a conclusive answer (which is the intent of the film). But this film does raise the issue of sIut-shaming and blaming the victim. We can see that is not justifiable for rape. We can see how embarrassing it is for the victim- to have the crime discussing in excruciating detail and to be analyzed and objectified.

Do you think she was raped?

Laura's personality is something to consider. She is portrayed as flirtatious. However we know that she came out of an abusive marriage and possible went into another one. She clearly has some mental health issues. I am just trying to take out the notion that she was "asking for it." Yes, she got drunk and hopped into a car with Barney. Might she have intended to have sex with Barney? Maybe. Because she was drunk, unhappy with her marriage? Maybe.

Note her use of language. She says that in both attacks, Barney let her know what was about to be raped/attacked.

When she came back to her husband, was he vilifying her for being out with a man (as if it were usual) or did he (or did he not) believe she was raped? She It's clear that she and her husband are not in the happiest relationship.

I think the movie purposefully portrays the actuality of the rape as vague because it makes us wonder if Frederick was justified or not (even though the whole point of the trial was not to portray the murder as "revenge.") Who knows how much of what Laura and Frederick say is the truth. Maybe Frederick gave her that black eye instead of Barney. That is implied in the movie. She didn't break down and cry when she talked about her rape. She seemed to take it quite well.

The way I see it, it was rape. I think it was one of those situations that quickly turns from exciting to horrible. Maybe when Barney tore off her panties, it was still "consensual." Did Barney actually say "I am going to rape you"? Probably not, but Laura might have said this to make her story seem more believable. But I think Barney did get forceful- she didn't want to make the situation worse. Rape is not always black and white. There is not some key moment or checklist that makes you think, "she deserved it."

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Laura's personality is something to consider. She is portrayed as flirtatious. However we know that she came out of an abusive marriage and possible went into another one. She clearly has some mental health issues. I am just trying to take out the notion that she was "asking for it." Yes, she got drunk and hopped into a car with Barney. Might she have intended to have sex with Barney? Maybe. Because she was drunk, unhappy with her marriage? Maybe.
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She wasn't drunk when she asked her lawyer to "come into my trailer. You can, you know", was she?

Based on this and other inconsistencies I don't think she was raped, at all, either - I think she had some consensual sex with the man she accused.

The "rapist" had no problem going back to the bar - not the least fear of being arrested, though a slight apprehension of being challenged by the jealous husband of known temper. He just didn't count on being shot dead without a chance. He was probably looking forward to a fight and beating him up.

Modern feminist myth/propaganda is that "women don't lie about being raped." This is nonsense, of course - women lie about that all the time for all kinds of reasons - relations with a husband or "steady" partner is but one. My own first wife tried that and I took her immediately to the police - where she TOTALLY changed her story to them (which they taped and played back to me before I killed the guy, myself.)

I did a little further research and the book and this movie really do closely follow the real life events that occurred in 1952. The husband was eventually acquitted and then spent a month institutionalized and under observation/treatment by Army psychiatrists and then totally released.

They DID get divorced shortly thereafter. He got away with it.

The real question that remains is just why the wife supported him throughout as he WAS a wife-beater. Maybe it was a "50 Shades of Grey" situation - she was a masochist and liked it. And he did his "best work" on her after she provoked him with her other affairs. She did not expect or understand him killing the other guy, though.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/killing-michigan-bar-owner-1952-inspired-film-anatomy-murder-article-1.423705

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