don't get me wrong, i liked this movie a lot (the acting was great especially Lancaster, cinematography, music, all excellent). the only thing i can complain about is the ending, which i feel squandered a lot of potential.
i feel the better ending would have been for J.J. to throw Falco off the balcony to his death in the manner that Susie tried to do with her own life. Susie would have kept quiet (taking on more of a femme fatale role), and J.J. never would have found out/believed the suicide attempt. I think it would have been a very ironic ending for Falco who at every turn tried to ruin Susie's life, and his actual fate in the real movie isn't very far off from this (the bit with the fat cop). And it would have completed J.J.'s sinister obsessive spiral into controlling and protecting his sister. Then she could have walked out on him like she did in the real movie, and the movie would have ended.
I mean, my ending's a lot more sensational and less realistic than the real ending. The historical basis for the movie (Winchell wasn't a murderer to my knowledge) probably doesn't work for my ending, either. But I just couldn't help but be a little disappointed with how "Sweet Smell of Success" ended up resolving.... anybody else?
It ends with Hunsecker and Falco getting what's coming to them. Hunsecker loses his sister and Falco gets hits with planting false evidence on Dallas and on top of that, he gets the sh!t kicked out of him by the fat cop. If Hunsecker threw Falco off the balcony and the sister kept her mouth shut, the realism of the picture would be lost. The film just tonally wasn't heading in that direction and headed towards the ending that it has.
"I also suspected for a minute that Susie was playing him, and that she never intended to commit suicide."
I had thought that too, especially because when Sidney told JJ that he was responding to JJ's message, J.J. asked, "What message?" I had assumed that it was Susie who called. I thought that Susie was more interesting and cunning than I had given her credit for - learnt it from her brother, I guess. On the other hand, she need agree with J.J. when he told her that she tried to kill herself, which makes it sounds as though it was not staged. Unless she was just trying to lead up to the line that she'd rather die than live with him? Or maybe she figured that she'd try to set Sidney up and if he didn't try to stop her she'd resort to Plan B - actually killing herself.
But back to the OP - I personally thought that the ending was perfect. JJ lost his sister, Sidney lost his cred hence career - both what they valued most, more than their lives.
your ending is very...whats the right words...dramatic wilky. But killing off sidney wouldn't make sure that jj is gonna get what he deserves for all the lives hes ruined. Sidney had a lot of dirt on jj, sure susan knew what her brother was like, but she didn't know everything he did.
i personally would of have it ended like the original script i read online, which the final scene was alot longer but explained a lot more how jj exactly felt about susan and sidney. and maybe a desperate kiss from jj to susan to stop her leaving, but i guess back then, open incest would be a bit much for stars to act out in a mianstream movie.
all that said, i still love the movie anyway, and the original ending, but ive seen still shots of the original script ending been played out, wonder what happen to it.
What a terrific picture. And because it's so well-crafted, I felt particularly aware that the latter part of the ending seemed to be missing a few beats. It came across as too abrupt - an uncharacteristic lapse. Looking over the original script, I think that as a result of the decision to pare it down - and cut some significant action - the rhythm was altered, impairing it.
I haven't looked at the script... but my own sense is that this complaint has some merit at least with respect to the final showdown in the apartment between Sidney and JJ (and Susan). Something there does seem like it should go on at least a little longer.
Still, it's hard to complain after such a brilliant film overall, and of course, the *very* end of the film - from the time Falco sees the cop to the final shot where Susan strides off into the dawning city to Bernstein's stirring Copland-ish theme - is *perfect* (I regularly whack the dvd on just to watch the last two minutes and hear those music cues!).
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Nope, it's a beautiful turn-the-tables-on-them maneuver by Susie. You can see the wheels turning in Sydney's head when J.J. enters the apartment -- he knows he's in deep. He suggests he was there only to save her from suicide, he gestures meaninglessly at the balcony door, he realizes it's closed now, his heart sinks more. A few minutes later, it's all over. JJ and Sydney turn on each other, and his last line to Susie, growled under his breath, "You're growing up." God, you gotta love it.
Sydney and JJ are going down together, victims of their own nastiness. And the sweet innocent little thing brought it about. Sydney faces broken bones, criminal charges and the end of his career. And JJ isn't losing a sister, he's getting a pink slip from the newspaper. He'll face public humiliation once Sydney starts talking (He implied he's not going down without a fight) And once JJ's rivals start digging into the story, you can bet Susie and her beau will be there to corroborate JJ's duplicity.
I particularly like how the quiet little mouse finally stands up to Big Brother on her own. She's not goaded by her lover. The relationship between brother and sister is very bizarre and worthy of a separate discussion. He seems more like father and lover than a protective brother, but also denies her every chance to express herself. If he senses the slightest resistance, he shuts her down -- and makes it seem in a protective way. So given all that, the story couldn't end any other way. (Et tu, Sus-e?)
Gee, Swift, do you think Sidney's really gonna break Hunsecker? He'll be lucky if he can walk after the cops are through with him. If he turns the tables on the famous columnist it literally could be the end of his life. I haven't seen the movie in some time but is it made clear that Sidney plans to get back at Hunsecker no matter what?
It does seem clear at the close of the film that this is the end of Sidney's career, at least in New York. Maybe he could start over on the west coast. Susie's leaving her brother. Fair enough. But is it implied that she and her boyfriend will form a team later on and gang up on Hunsecker. It wasn't clear to me that Hunsecker was finished. Sidney, yes, Susie, well, she's done with her brother, but the great J.J. Hunsecker?
No, JJ's demise isn't as obvious as Sydney's. I only spotted it when watching it again recently (after several previous viewings). Sydney's parting words to JJ as he scrambles out of the apartment is that he's going to blab. It's pretty stupid to telegraph his punch, because the fat cop might not stop at just kicking him around. If Kello thinks JJ's going down, then he himself is at risk, so maybe he'll just put a bullet in Sydney and claim he was trying to run away on those broken legs.
But if Sydney lives, he's going to get nasty. This gets the wheels in my head moving ... If Sydney wants to get nasty, he'll get the ear of the rival newspapers. Once the ball starts rolling, people will ask Dallas for confirmation... you can see where this will snowball.
None of this is overtly obvious in the finale, just the ominous promise by Sydney that he's not going gently into that dark night. All that aside, if Susie goes back to Dallas with her revelation -- (remember him? Laid up in traction, Dallas? Now free of his drug charge, Dallas?) -- he now has ammo to go gunning for JJ.
I know where you're coming from, yet the ending seems a cheat when I think about it, as in too melodramatic, with a dozen loose ends, very important ones from a plot standpoint, hanging out there. For starters, there's Susie, there's Dallas, there's Sidney. It's true that any one of them could break J.J., and as we're shown in the film, the old boy has his enemies in the newspaper world, so a lot of people out there would be all ears. The problem with all this, and it may be partly Burt Lancaster's controlling, alpha male performance as much as the script, is that we see J.J. as a near omnipotent figure. Aside from the matter of his sister, a family affair, does he ever lose? He seems unstoppable, like Mussolini. The guy's a nationally syndicated columnist, a TV personality, has friends in high and low places, probably a lot of people to literally kill for him. It isn't even made clear in the final scene that this isn't exactly what Kello plans to do. He may kill or so grievously wound Sidney as to make retaliation a near impossibility. Worse, if he does this and gets away with it (and why not?), wouldn't think dampen the ardor of J.J.'s sister and boyfriend?
Given the cynical tone of the film, from which it's nearly impossible to not infer that the bad guys always win, it's difficult for me to see that J.J. has taken a hit any bigger than a bump in the road; admittedly, a big bump, but enough to ruin him? Emotionally, yes, that's a given in as much as he's lost control of his sister. Yet the fact that he's got guys like Kello willing to do his bidding makes it even more difficult for me to believe that J.J. is really headed for a fall. It's kind of maybe yes and maybe no, which I find unsatisfactory. If there's any hint that somehow the moral order will be restored,--to the extent that was ever there in the first place--I failed to get it. To me it seemed like business as usual, but then I haven't seen the film in ages. The one ray of hope is that if Sidney is as badly damaged as is implied he will be that Susie and Dallas will take action. If Susie's willing to leave her brother maybe she'll report him to, well, not the police, since they're on J.J.'s payroll, so to speak, but some higher authority, or worse yet, a rival newspaper . What the film could have used, and didn't get, is a scene like the one in From Here To Eternity, when the bad officer is replaced by a good one, with its implication that the beep is coming to an end; or A Hatful Of Rain, when the addict's wife calls and reports her husband as a drug addict. That things weren't wrapped up at the end, if only by implication, may be one of the major reasons why the film was not a financial success. It's a major downer.
I think J.J.'s losing his sister is more than just a bump in his road. We know she's the most important thing in his life because we've just spent the entire movie watching him do anything & everything to try & ensure he doesn't lose her.
I don't think the audience would've bought J.J. throwing Sidney off the balcony. For one thing, one of the themes of the movie is how in a civilized, ostensibly polite society, words (both written & spoken) can be as harmful as physical violence. For another, I don't think it would have been in keeping with J.J.'s character. He's too smart to commit murder, at least by his own hand. Thirdly, I think it would have destroyed the tone of realism the movie establishes, which would have made your ending feel contrived or overly melodramatic. I don't have a problem with the ending myself: the good guys win & the bad guys lose--in a way that maintains its tone of realism. Just my opinion, of course. Don't know if you listened to the commentary but it's interesting your bringing up your problems with the ending. According to the commentary, they struggled & struggled & rewrote the ending many, many times before they settled on what's in the movie.