You can use whatever rating criteria you like; influence, shock factor, whatever... What do you think are the TOP 5 BEST WAR MOVIES THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN in your opinions... Here are mine: #1 Apocalypse Now (Does 'Schindler's List' count as a war movie? I'll assume not...) #2 Paths of Glory (Not sure if 'Dr. Strangelove' counts as a war movie...) #3 The Thin Red Line #4 Full Metal Jacket (Do 'Lawrence of Arabia', 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' or 'The Pianist' count? I don't know...) #5 Saving Private Ryan
What do you guys think are your top 5? Also, could somebody clear up my queries please...
I'd argue LoA does, but TGTBTU and the Pianist don't, as war is mostly a backdrop there. All great movies, in any case - petr_stv
I disagree about The Pianist. Władysław Szpilman (portrayed by Adrien Brody) may not have been a combatant, but war is not merely backdrop to his story--it is integral to his experience.
In fact, Roman Polanski does a terrific job of depicting the effect that World War Two had on civilian populations, particularly captive populations such as the Poles, and most especially specific events such as the Warsaw Uprisings of 1943 and 1944, the latter of which was not only particularly brutal but the biggest resistance operation of the war.
Civilian deaths during the war were much, much higher than combatant deaths during World War Two. Any film that depicts that, such as The Pianist, is a war movie in my book.
Otherwise, I agree with you on everything else: Lawrence of Arabia is a war film; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, despite its (American) Civil War backdrop, is too caper- and individual-focused to be one; and all three films are excellent.
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If you can cut out the war element of the story and it still makes sense, its not a war movie. LoA is highly dependent on the war conflicts for the story. Pianist would just be a crazy homeless man hiding in peoples houses if it didnt have the WWII backdrop. TGTBTU could have easily cut the civil war aspect and been a generic western and it still would have worked just as well.
If you can cut out the war element of the story and it still makes sense, its not a war movie. - mjdaudish
Your definition. I don't agree.
Pianist would just be a crazy homeless man hiding in peoples houses if it didnt have the WWII backdrop.
Nonsense. He wouldn't be a "crazy homeless man" if his life had not been disrupted by Germany's invasion and occupation of Poland, which started World War Two.
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1. The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick) 2. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola) 3. Letters From Iwo Jima (Clint Eastwood) 4. Come and See (Elem Klimov) 5. Paths of Glory (Stanley Kubrick)
Apocalypse Now (making of documentary 'Heart of Darkness' is equally enjoyable), Schindler's list, Saving Private Ryan, Gallipoli (very iunderrated), Full Metal Jacket, Deer Hunter, and Glory (underrated as well).
Can't claim they're the greatest, but here are some I like that haven't made the list so far, in no particular order. There are a lot of great films about war, and I agree with all the listed ones so far.
Seen so few. But here we go: 1. The Deer Hunter 2. Paths Of Glory 3. All Quiet on the western front 4. Full Metal Jacket 5. Saving Private Ryan (Only one I didn't rate 10)
I don't count: Barry Lyndon, Dr. Strangelove, Lawrence of Arabia, Schindlers List, La vita è bella, The Great Dictator and The General.
If I would count them only 2 of the movies on my list would still be included.
I need to watch: Apocalypse Now The Thin Red Line Ivan's Childhood (although I guess it's not really a war movie) and perhaps Platoon (although my expectations aren't so high for this one)
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