St. Elmos Fire


Can anyone explain exactly what is St. Elmos Fire in layman's terms?
I looked it up on wikipedia.com but the explanation wasn't very helpful.

"St. Elmo's Fire is an electro-luminescent corona discharge caused by the ionization of the air during thunderstorms inside of a strong electric field. Although referred to as "fire", St. Elmo's Fire is in fact a low density, relatively low temperature plasma caused by massive atmospheric electrical potential differences which exceed the dielectric breakdown value of air at around 3 megavolts per meter."



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St. Elmos fire is a phenomenom that happens over the ocean and flat plains. It occurs when two air masses collide causing a thunderstorm. Now, have you ever seen the old site gag of somebody getting shocked and then putting a lightbulb in their mouth and having it glow? This is not far from what causes St E's Fire, the air from the thunderstorm becomes so charged with electricity that it literally glows and everything in that air mass glows along with it. You might ask why doesnt it just lightning and be done with it but the amount of energy needed to cause a lightning bolt is just too spread out so it just burns in place, causing the glow. Another way of explaining it is if you were to take a thousand 1 watt light bulbsand put them together, you would have a thousand watt light bulb = the lightning but if you kept them apart, rather than the strong, bright, hot light, you'ld get much cooler, fainter glow = St. Elmos fire.
Not only does this phenomenom happen at sea but ranchers have reported this same thing happening on cattle drives across the plains. Instead of ships, their cattle actually glowed.


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What is the significance of having Ahab touched St. Emos fire in the film? I mean can someone get killed or seriously injured by touching St. Elmos fire, and if not then what is so extraordinary or magical about Ahab doing that?

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St. Elmos Fire is a really bad eighties movie starring the brat pack.

Sorry, but you can imagine the thrill I got when I realized that no one had yet given this stupid response.

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As soon as Ahab touched the "cross" of harpoons that were aglow, my girlfriend and I both said, "Hey, he's a real man in motion!"




Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances.

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I think Ahab made good use of the superstitiousness of his sailors. Or maybe he was superstitious himself, most mariners were then (and most fishermen still are, now).




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I think it may be that Ahab is illustrating that all forms, even 'dangerous' ones are merely phenomena of a supreme, inscrutable and evil noumenal force and that he does not fear any of those "masks", unlike Christians and that he will oppose any threat that he encounters and to "strike through" them to that invisable enemy. That is what the famous retort by Ahab to Starbuck is about:

"All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event - in the living act, the undoubted deed - there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the moldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. That inscrutable thing is chiefly what I hate; and be the white whale agent or be the white whale principal, I will wreak that hate upon him. Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me. For could the sun do that, then could I do the other; since there is ever a sort of fair play herein, jealousy presiding over all creations. But not my master, man, is even that fair play. Who's over me? Truth hath no confines."

Extraordarily powerful words. Ahab (or Melville) is saying "Original Sin be damned" - that it's bullsh*t and that it's "everyman for himself and Evil against All" and that wills shall oppose one and other on a level playing field, ie. that there are no rules or laws in his pursuit of the whale/Evil.

Late in life, Melville read Schopenhauer extensively when the first english translations became available.


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Basically all Ahab is saying is that he thinks of himself as a God-like figure while Moby Dick is the evil being he's trying to kill. However, Ahab is actually the evil one while Moby Dick is thought by many to symbolize God. And the St. Elmo's Fire (corposants) is electrical discharge from the lightning. It wouldn't be an uncommon thing for the masts to be struck by lightning like in Moby Dick. I have not seen the entire movie but have read the book so I don't know the differences between the two.

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It isn't prerequisite, but being aware of the philosophies of Immanuel Kant and Arthur Schopenhauer is extremely helpful in understanding what Melville is trying to convey in Moby Dick. The film presents a more direct, Hemmingway-esque adventure yarn where the philosophical passages are often presented a little too ripe and the flow of the film falters, I feel. It is a story that, in part, seems to lend itself to cinematic interpretation, but is in actuality, very difficult material to execute on screen, with actors. Huston's film is often a little too light - 'family friendly' - almost in a Disney stylee, but then that was the ingrained style of the times in Hollywood, and even a maverick like Huston could not overcome those habits. The 1998 TV movie also doesn't rise to the challenge, really. It is a story that could only now be told on film most powerfully, given a budget of around $70 million, on-location principle photography and CGI by the best artists back in Hollywood. But it would need a great writer - William Goldman would be my first choice - and obviously great actors (De Niro as Ahab? John Malkovich?) and director (Peter Weir?) and cinematographer (Gordon Willis). But after a slew of shark films over the last thirty years, perhaps audiences are not really too keen to see an allegorical whaling epic.


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In Hebrew the word "karan" means horns of light literally and that was also an effect of St. Elmo's Fire in the top of the mountain Sinai in Saudi Arabia instead of Egypt as people think. Wonder Gregory Peck as Moses instead of Chuck Heston (his partner in Big Country)!!!!

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