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If Bick really loved her...


he would not have married her and taken her to live in Texas. Or he would have had to marry her and move to Maryland.

But then we would not have had this beautiful story and film.

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And he wouldn't have had his beloved ranch.


"Did you make coffee? Make it!"--Cheyenne.

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Yes, but how do you love a place like that? I think I could be born and raised there and indoctrinated to love it and even understand that it is the source of the family's wealth -- And STILL not love it.

I never understood why that barren, barren wasteland had any value. Why did it even work to raise cattle? What were they eating?

If I were Bick, I would have married Leslie and moved to Maryland. Let Luz run Reata.

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If he had moved to Maryland for her, she would have spent the rest of their lives walking all over him. Texas is an attitude as much as a place.

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Interesting point. But I don't think she would have spent their lives walking all over him. She wouldn't have had to. He would have had not adapt or go back home.

But he would not have been able to adapt and embrace Maryland the way that she was able to accept Texas, albeit as a place that needed a tremendous amount of change. (Though Maryland wasn't perfect either).

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That's because you haven't lived there.

From our home outside of Phoenix I could walk or get on a horse and ride all the way to Canada without getting stuck. In Maryland, even though it is largely rural, I could not go in any direction in anything approximating a straight line for more than a few hundred yards without hitting private property that prohibited entry.

I always felt constrained, almost imprisoned and I think any westerner would feel the same way. Especially someone who owned one of the big ranches.

I knew a member of the Babbitt family (Bruce Babbitt was a governor of Arizona and Secretary of the Interior under President Clinton). He told me that he could ride on horseback from Winslow, Arizona to the Nevada state line without leaving family property. It's a very different feel from the closet sized states of the east.

Only one state east of the Mississippi River is larger than any of the states west of the Mississippi. That is Pennsylvania (if I remember correctly) and it is slightly larger Wyoming.

If you've lived in the 'wide open spaces' out here, it is impossible to adjust to those states back east that are smaller than counties.



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It is Michigan. Pennsylvania is not that big. I'm from Florida which ia actually the cattle capital of the US and I understand what you mean. We have wide open areas outside of Jacksonville and Sourh Florida and of course open seas on 3 of 4 sides. It really is something you can't shake -- the feeling of confinement and "smallness" that comes with small, densly populated states.

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Actually Florida is bigger than Iowa, Loiusiana, and Arkansas and about the size of Missouri which are all west of the Mississippi.

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So you don't like that you bump into private property, but Bruce Babbitt has so much private property that only he can ride from Winslow to Nevada?

I get what you are saying in a way. I don't like that it is almost solid city from Santa Barbara to the Mexican border. And the same sprawl in the S.F. Bay area.

Even in a quiet home, in a quiet neighborhood, you just know you are in the middle of a bee hive.

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Nobody who was born and raised in the west could stand to live in Maryland, as pretty as it is, especially if they have land in the west.

I was born and raised in Arizona. My wife and I settled in Maryland after I retired from the air force because of the collection of three letter agencies there (NSA, CIA, DIA) and I had been an intelligence officer in the air force. After five years I moved back to Arizona and told the wife she could come with me or stay there.

Bick would never be happy in Maryland.

The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank.

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You are so right. Liberal corridor easterners think the world revolves around their exhorbanent taxes and loving to be told what to do.

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Oh stfu you a$$hole, fuggin crybaby pu$$y, gotta start insulting people. A polite conversation was being had, kindly F-off.

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Things were different back then. Leslie was happy to go to Texas with Bick. She knew he had his family estate in Texas, and I don't think it occurred to her to not join her husband on his land and becom the new mistress of the house. She even says as much to Luz, that she is the Lasy of the House, and won't be a guest in his home. That's what women did back then, followed their husbands. She did it happily.

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Good point. I don't know if I could move to the desert even for the absolute love of my life. That sounds bad, but that's how much I hate the desert.

In their case, there would have been plenty of money to travel. In which case I would have been away from home 360 days a year. And that could take a toll on a marriage.

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I hate the desert too. Just the dryness and barrenness is enough for me but if I loved someone and that was his living and estate, I'd tolerate it because it's a part of who they are.

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You're completely ignoring the fact that Bick was a flamer.

Get the facts first - you can distort them later!

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pouncemo says > he would not have married her and taken her to live in Texas. Or he would have had to marry her and move to Maryland.
That would never have been a consideration; especially in the time period in which the movie is set. Leslie would have gone to live with her husband; not the other way around.

Also, it wouldn't make any sense for Bick to move to Maryland. What would he do to support his family? He was a cattle rancher in Texas. Love wouldn’t have been reason enough for him to move to Maryland and live off his wife’s family, start fresh, or live off Reata revenue that he was not there to generate.

Reata wasn't just his home and his work it was his family's legacy; that included, as he saw it, all future generations of the Benedict family.


Woman, man! That's the way it should be Tarzan. [Tarzan and his mate]

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All good points. That is exactly why Bick took her to Texas.

It was a facetious question.

Kind of.

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I gotta completely disagree. I'm not even from Texas, I'm a proud Tulsa man, and even I'd never move out of Tulsa. Not for anything, anyone, ever. That's just how southern / western culture is. We're hopelessly proud of our states and families stick close to home.

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