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The whole crew should have died, especially the captain.

posted 9 years ago by bassgoilius
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So, I will cut them a little slack, they may not have thought seriously about the fact that she (Alta) was not from earth and not used to dealing with anyone other than her father. But she was a 19 year old woman. And though she was an adult she was still very young and naive. It wouldn't have been ok to ogle and whistle at her if she were an earthling. And tricking her into kissing them was despicable. But nobody was worse than the captain. He treated her harshly only to take advantage of her like the rest of his men. Making things worse, he suggested that if anything had happened between her and the lieutenant it would have been her fault because of the way she was dressed. I don't think he was saying she was specifically inviting rape by her dress (although I think some would call it rape if he did manage to trick her into sleeping with him). But to suggest that anything was her fault rather than the fault of his men was terrible. And then he used his authority to get the lieutenant out of the way so he could go after her. If I were the father I would have destroyed them all. But, that's just me...

[–] SanSanSan 9 years ago

Yes, I would have enjoyed seeing those bastards smeared in pieces across the planet. *beep* this disgusting old *beep* More "innocent" age my ass.

[–] notorious918 9 years ago

But don't forget they had been locked up in hyperspace for 378 days.

That has to count for something. Besides, they like kissing.   

[–] ewaf58 9 years ago

And with an average age of 24.5 which would have made them rampant sex hunters.

[–] Harold_of_Whoa 9 years ago

Because perfect physical specimen = sexual predator.

[–] thesnowleopard 9 years ago

Because perfect physical specimen = sexual predator.

Pretty much. Also, that bit where she gets attacked by her tiger friend because she's no longer a sexual innocent. Ugh.

I did think it was amusing how she was "experimenting" with all the good-looking young men on the crew, but of course she had to be "punished" with a good scolding, it being the 1950s and all (that took all the fun out of it). Never mind that with Robbie the Robot and her father's Id roaming around, she was actually pretty safe.

The thing is, if they'd heeded Morbius' warning and respected the rules of the planet they'd landed on, nobody would have died (aside from those in the original expedition) and Morbius might have been able to send Earth some of the safer info over time. The morality in this film was predictably messed up along the lines of westerns of the day and more than a tad fascist. Never mind that the crew were totally in the wrong.

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[–] mmw_rocket 9 years ago

19 in the 50's wasn't like 19 today. It was very common for 19-year-olds to be married with kids in those days. Now we view anyone under 30 as a kid

And of course it was sexist. Sexism In the 1950's was de facto.

[–] nicver 9 years ago

And you know that because you were around in the 50s and experienced it first hand?

[–] ewaf58 9 years ago

I was and the poster is correct - go stand on the naughty step.

[–] sonofagun 9 years ago

To clarify this: Commander Adams actually treated Altaira the way he did because for one, he was protecting her from Farman's advances (can't blame Farman much though!) and two, he really was attracted to her and for all the right reasons. There was strong chemistry between them and he didn't know at first how to deal with it. Plus he had to maintain his status and position as the leader of the expedition showing strength and resolve. He had no wrong intentions towards her of any kind.

If you'd like to read a much better version of this part of the story, read the novel. Much deeper explanation is there.

[–] ewaf58 9 years ago

I looked it up on Amazon and the book is horrendously expensive.

Having just see an excellent print of the film on BBC 4 I cannot blame Framer either - in the scenes with Adams where her hair is still a little wet she looks absolutely stunning. No need for the sort of makeup today's girls wear - just naturally pretty.

[–] sonofagun 9 years ago

Paperback editions show up on ebay now & then for less than the hard covers. Or scour the book stores or libraries for one.

Kindle edition only $5 on amazon!

[–] ewaf58 9 years ago

I'm in the UK and sadly I can't see it anywhere now - there are books on Kindle with similar titles but not the actual Forbidden Planet. Annoying although there is a prequel book called Bellerophon so my search wasn't totally in vain

[–] sonofagun 9 years ago

Too bad it isn't posted on line for free. Get the Bantam paperback which leaves out all the profanity in the hard cover editions which was completely inappropriate IMO.

[–] jacksflicks 9 years ago

. . . . you sanctimonious prig! It's your hysterical, obtuse rant that deserves to die.

[–] newfrontier45 9 years ago

Posts like this are the reason I wonder why I ever bother to even glance at the forums on IMDB. Stupid is not a strong enough word.

[–] nickm2 9 years ago

Sometimes we gotta wade through a lot of cow dung & ass holes to get what to what we want...often the 'better' the movie, the more we have to endure the pests.

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[–] milesaheadlds 9 years ago

So, let's get this straight, the OP thinks the ENTIRE crew deserved to die because a couple of the men set their sights on Alta (a 19-year-old adult), and kissed her?

The captain treated her harshly because she was so naive - he was actually protecting her from herself. That he then fell for her and made sure his Lieutenant was kept out of the way (All's fair in love and war!), hardly warrants a death sentence, does it?

Is that REALLY a proportionate response?

[–] gottaluvafriend 8 years ago

I'm so grateful I'm not politically correct and have some age on me.