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What a ridiculous movie


I've been trying to watch Marilyn Monroe movies lately. As a young teen I went through a phase of adoring her, but I really hadn't seen any of her films. It was her 'image' that I was enamored with (note: I'm a woman, and no, not gay.)

So when TCM had on Bus Stop the other day, and I was home sick from work I thought 'Yes!'

What a disappointment.

This film is so incredibly stupid I dont' even know where to begin:

1. So Bo is 21 and has no experience with women? Are they serious? Did the town in Montana from whence he came kill them all? By age 21, most farm boys have seen it ALL.

2. Why was Cherie singing? She sucked. Off key, no tempo..it was like watching Marilyn Monroe mimic an orgasm to music.

3. Cherie has goals, dreams. She knows where she is headed (Hollywood and Vine!) and even has it charted on a map. But then this very young, loud, vulgar, violent cowboy comes to town and kidnaps here. First off, why didn't ANYONE call the police???? At one point when Bo is taking Cherie away, he even hits her! I couldn't believe my eyes! If it were 1956, I would have stood up and walked out on this movie.

4. Then they all get stranded at a bus stop, and the bus driver beats up the cowboy. All of a sudden, because he got "whipped" by the man, Bo's entire personality does a 180. All of a sudden, he soft spoken, apologetic, etc. All his previous traits are gone, vanished, and he isn't obnoxious anymore. And to boot, Cherie NOW decides she loves him, and will go to Montana and be a ranchers wife.

What about her singing career? What about her dreams? Her goals? Just because a guy STOPS being abusive, that's good enough for her. How utterly insulting to women everywhere!!

I will never watch the movie again. No wonder Marilyn had the reputation she did, with scripts like this, which address women as property to be acquired. Ugh.

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I am a 60yo male, and I agree with you. Wow if I treated my wife like that I would be in deep you know what.

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It's a piece of its time, when women really didn't have careers.

The character of Cherie is supposed to be this dreamer with no talent (which Monroe does pull off well). When a Montana hunk comes her way, presumably her problems are solved: she was never meant for fame, happiness for her is only possible when she decides to become a rancher's wife with every modern appliance she could wish for.

It was written by a man - so what did you expect?

I can see where there is supposed to be some poignancy when Bo finds out that Cherie has "been with" other guys - a lot of other guys, and he reassures her that he likes her anyway. Also - this play was heavily re-written for the screen so maybe there's more to it in the stage version.

However, the part about Bo being from Montana and not having been around any attractive girls somewhat rings true, especially for that period of time. Montana was and still is pretty empty when it comes to people and most of those ranchers' daughters...well, let's just say the ranchers have to be careful not to mistake them for their own cattle and brand them...

"Some Like It Hot" is where Marilyn shines.

"Don't call me 'honey', mac."
"Don't call me 'mac'... HONEY!"

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It's a piece of its time, when women really didn't have careers.
Another film with that issue is THE BIG CIRCUS Ronda Fleming's role, in an early scene with momma Colon "Man doesn't like that in his woman"

AND yet all the women in the circus had carrers which I'm sure many give up when.

they got married.

A circus with no ladies? oh PLEASE



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It's impossible for an enlightened 21st century audience to appreciate "Bus Stop" now more than a half-century old.

He does not hit her. (He does slap her backside after he slings her over his shoulder.)

Everybody in the movie--including Cherie--is repulsed by his behavior. She's not supposed to be a good singer. Her lack of talent is basic to the story and her character.

Of course his sudden change makes no sense--it's a movie. I watched three today--all fairly new--and they all had absurd plot devices and holes in the script, etc.

It is significant, however, that this crude, obnoxious boy understands just what she says when declaring "some people might say I've led a real wicked life--and I guess I have." He understands and loves her as she is. Cherie is not made to apologize to Bo for her promiscuity--merely to explain how she's lived and that he was seeing her incorrectly as an "angel."

Most promiscuous women in films back then were made to "pay" for their "wicked life."

Since it's only a movie, let's be generous and believe they lived happily ever after in Montana.

But if you are looking for MM to play strong empowered women, you'll have to settle for one of her early, small roles in "Clash By Night." In that one, she beats the guy up! And she's pretty independent in "The Prince and the Showgirl" (a great performance in rather stagy stodgy film.)



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I find it ridiculous too, but because the comedy is outrageous with a character bigger than life and totally untamed. He's used to doing all the taming--bulls, broncs, calves, etc. It's not until he gets whipped (or tamed) that he realizes something is wrong with his behavior.

So, yes, I think it's ridiculous but that's basically why I like it.

And for Cherie's dreams....hmmm, she was a horrible singer and dancer and stage entertainer--was she really going to make it in Hollywood? She probably really knew the answer to that.

I thought the acting was spot-on by everyone in this movie.

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Will people ever learn that you cannot analyze a 60 year old film by present day standards? There are scads of contemporary films containing ridiculous content, poor acting, plot holes, and yes, even "political incorrectness" - why not go and pontificate about them? People are supposed to know better now. Leave the past in the past and save your oxygen for current atrocities.

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Lots of movies, even current ones go on the premise that if you pressure a girl long enough she'll cave in and fall in love with you. I figure most movies like this are written by nerds with no idea but huge imaginations!

I had the hardest time with poor Marilyn's accent, which was dreadful! It was such a bad cliche of what, Georgian, Forest Gump Alabamian? Ugh - terrible.

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i've gone on a MM movie rampage lately and i've been mostly left disappointed, she's only been in a few good movies, most of them are average at best





so many movies, so little time

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