For those who have read the book
Is this movie close to the book at all? If I've seen the movie, is the book worth reading? what key plot points/events am I missing out on by not reading the book?
shareIs this movie close to the book at all? If I've seen the movie, is the book worth reading? what key plot points/events am I missing out on by not reading the book?
shareThe book is fabulous. Several years ago, a bookstore chain in the UK polled customers about their favourite books and it came second, after Lord of the Rings. Along with Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, it pretty much invented the strand of science-fiction that deals with dystopian futures.
How does it differ from the film versions? The same way most great books do. The book has much more depth. There's also a lot of political philosophising which couldn't really be translated to film. And the 1956 movie changed the ending, completely negating Orwell's message about totalitarianism.
Check out We by by Yevgeny Zamyatin, it was the first major dystopia novel. It was written in 1920's Russia, and Orwell cited it as a major influence for 1984. I think that BNW and 1984 are better novels, but it is still worth the read.
shareYevgeny Zamyatin took his cue from When the Sleeper Wakes by H.G.Wells.
If you can't count it or measure it it's an opinion and not a fact.
Thank you for the reading suggestions!
shareI've heard that there was an alternate version ending in the 1956 production (something about Winston and Julia shouting "Down with Big Brother" while at a firing squad. Never seen this. the version I have seen does have Winston making his final conversion at the end...
I did notice several other changes in it though. Instead of Goldstein they had Calador. And there were only 2 traitors: Jones and Rutherford. Aaronson was missing. SOMEBODY excised any names of possibly jewish derivation. Being overly cautious perhaps?
I saw the film with that alternate ending; it just about ruined the film for me. The brainwashing failed and Winston died defiant and unbeaten. It was a bit like ordering a hot curry - and finding that the cook had left out all the spices, in case someone did not like hot food.
I have just seen the version made in 1984 - magnificent. And I see that someone is planning a new version, will wait and see.
I've only seen the newer Michael Radford version filmed in 1984, and I'd certainly say it's a good reductive adaptation of the book. That is to say, it keeps the spirit of the book even while it cannot contain it's entirety.
I first read Orwell's incomparable book when I was in junior high in the late 80's; since then, I've re-read it on average every year or two. It's that captivating and enlightening that you can read it over and over again and discover and appreciate new things.
Just my two cents... ~ewall
Well, for one thing, he's supposed to be named O'Brian...
shareYou have got to be kidding! Damn sure the book is worth reading! As to whether the movie follows the story i am not quite sure for this movie. There is however another adaptation by Michael Radford called Nineteen Eighty-Four
(not the same as 1984). It is in color and follows the story to the letter. I would go as far as to say it is perhaps a bit better than the original (this one having been shot in london in 1984)
Its one of the best books ever written. Hands down. Its not just brilliant, its a good read just as far as story-telling, too. And fashionably lean.
Since I've never had an oportunity to give my opnion anywhere else on earth, I gotta say I disagree with the ending. Man can be tortured, made to do and say things he doesn't believe it, but the spirit can't be broken like it is in the book.
I agree with slouchingpoet - i've just finished reading it and it is the best book i've ever read - even though I had already absorbed much of what it was about over the years. It's bleak, convincing and at the same time toys with you - making you think that there is hope. You dont really know if there is or isn't until the end [but hey - you dont have to read it to find out now - Slouchingpoet has given the game away and ruined the whole ting for anybody who hasn't read it!! You dont know until the very last paragraph the depth of the change in Winston...but this careless review has gone and spolied it for all!! unforgiveable! like being told the score of the big match just before you watch it! Sigh]
sharehave to disagree slouchingpoet.. we're not superheroes... everyone has their breaking point
shareSPOILER
I just finished reading the book, literally moments ago, and let me tell you, it feels like someone just put a bullet through my brain.
It's one of those books with such resounding and infinitely deep resonance which, when ended to tragically, is so huanting it's unbearable.
Probably one of the best books I have ever read, but that's obvious. Probably one of the most important books to read as we enter into the 21st Century, but that's obvious. Probably 99% of it's readers will never understand the message that Orwell was trying to convey, and hence, we will head closer and closer to 1984 by the day, and that is tragic.
Just imagine if the party had been destroyed; gloriously and violently. Just imagine the feelings you have felt reading it. Now imagine what it would be like if that happened today, against the economic overlords that control us from our desires to our hatreds.
Health protection is a scam
Their morals took it on the lam
Booze and nicotene's okay
And bio-tech is here to stay
But herbs are toxic through and through
Those bureaucrats don't have a clue
Nonetheless they run the show
And inspections soon will grow
If we lose these health food wars
I'm forced to inconvenience stores.
Yeah, yeah. I'd like to hear you complain when you get a new kidney from a genetically modified pig or when you're cured from an incurable decease. Anyway, what exactly did that have to do with 1984?
"There I was...
Mother of God! There I am!"
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
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"There I was...
Mother of God! There I am!"
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
1. Sorry for giving away the ending.
2. I don't think the world post-9/11 is anything like 1984. In fact, it's almost a parallel reversal of 1984. Kind of a 'the last war will be fought with sticks and stones' type environment.
3. To the guy that said we aren't super-heroes: A couple of Canadians (I think - maybe English) were taken prisoner in Saudi Arabia and tortured and prepared for execution. They confessed on televsion to invented crimes, the whole nine yards, but later, after they were released they all agreed that somewhere well in the back of their minds they held onto the truth. The human spirit is too strong. But maybe that's what the addition of the single tear to the film was suppose to represent.
Actually, while the original book is very good and I highly recommend it, I would also recommend Anthony Burgess' masterpiece "1985" which is half dialogue between author and interviewer discussing the reality of "1984" (which was originally to be titled "1948") and then a novella with Burgess' own dystopia where Britain is ruled by the trade unions and a refusal to kowtow to the unions has terrible consequences equal to Winston Smith's. While the Burgess novella is a little dated now, it does have a scary premonition of the rise of Islam in the United Kingdom.
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I gotta say 1984 was a bit disappointing to me...probably becuase I am reading it in 2011 and the book has been around for over 50 years... The story itself is nothing new to me though it might have been back then. The themes present in the book are hammered into us through music, history, movies, and books. I find it much more enlightening to read something like "the rise and fall of the third reich" which has actual history of something that truly did happen to an entire country which honestly is just as unbelieveable to me as the situation that existed in 1984. Even knowing what happened in Nazi germany truly occurred I still cannot fathom in my mind how a society like that could exist.
shareI gotta say 1984 was a bit disappointing to me...probably becuase I am reading it in 2011 and the book has been around for over 50 years... The story itself is nothing new to me though it might have been back then.