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If we look at this movie through today's eyes (SPOILERS)...


...What does it tell us , class ?
It tells us that , a " barely legal " (I guess) naive small-town HS graduate should run off and get married to a trainhopping homeless alcoholic veteran to go somewhere else entirely , that's what ! And I won't even cover the sub-plot about Rosalind Russell's character for now...
NOTE: I haven't seen the movie real recently , and I've never seen nor read the play ~ Which , especially considering the censorship standards then , may have been a little " nicened " up for H'Wood , I suppose .
Now , it is somewhere between 1952 (the play was produced on B'Way in the 1952-3 season) and 1955 (Who are the pop/movie star pinups I think I see next to Kim's bead of , by the way ?) . I will presume that Novak's character is a this-year HS graduate , 17 or 18 , and rural Kansas's age of consent is probably around that , I suppose . Strasberg's character , with her ambitions of going to NYC and being an actress , is rather more sophisticated .
Even if Holden's character was a WWII veteran having lied himself into the Army at 16 , that would make him 21 or 22 in even 1952 at the earlies ~ And (the issue about Holden's actual age left aside) - he is probably older than that .
He is homeless , has hopped a freight to get there ~ I believe he is shown drinking , and conventional wisdom today (Which I don't nessecarily agree with , just as with the other present-day c. w. I invoke here , but I believe it would exist that way today) would tend to hold that a hmeless person who drinks is by definition an alkie .
He has been a drifter ~ Would he be considered to be a PTSD case ?
He wants naive Kim to go join him in a cheap room somewhere ~ The modern-day " correct " mental health advisors , among the lines of Oprah/Suze Ornman/Dr. Phil , say , would almost certainly respond to this with " NO NO , NO , GIRLFRIEND ! HE'S SICK , AND PROBABLY A LIKELY ABUSER ! YOU DESERVE MORE ! " !
They would tell HER to go take night courses and do volunteer work ~ And Holden , they'd no doubt recommend for a locked rehab program (of which there were considerably less back then) , with Kim to , POSSIBLY , visit him on Veterans' and Memorial Days and hand him a baked cupcake and say " Thanks for your service " . That's all !
Let's return to the age differences , too . I think we can agree that Inge was picturing a man of at least 25 or so ~ going out with ~ and planning to marry , on maybe two days' acquaintance , a pretty naive HS grad ~ Our attitudes about " age-appropriate relationships " have rather changed in 65 or so years , I'll say that !
MAYBE it would be " barely legal " to-day ~ Or , possibly the Holden character would be up for a felony rap , prison time , and sex offender status !, depending in part on the local DA's inclination ! These romance between under-18 females and over-21 males happen quite often in Golden Age Hollywood films...

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"a hmeless person who drinks is by definition an alkie"

What? Drinking doesn't make someone an alcoholic. An alcoholic is someone who frequently drinks alcohol excessively and is addicted to it.

"He has been a drifter ~ Would he be considered to be a PTSD case ?"

Because he's a drifter? No, drifting does not a PTSD case make.

"a man of at least 25 or so ~ going out with ~ and planning to marry, on maybe two days' acquaintance , a pretty naive HS grad"

There's nothing immoral or illegal about a twenty-five-year-old going out with or planning to marry a high school graduate.

"possibly the Holden character would be up for a felony rap , prison time , and sex offender status !"

For dating and wanting to marry a high school graduate? Transcendent absurdity.


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