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Another 'Cheyenne' ripoff (or 'rewrite' if you like that better)


This time is was the 1956 episode entitled, "Fury at Rio Hondo." This was a rewrite of the 1944 movie "To Have and Have Not" which was based on the novel written originally by Ernest Hemingway. Yeah, both were produced at WB. In this case, the credit for writing the Cheyenne episode goes to James Gunn" and there is no mention of Hemingway's inspiration. Once again, some of the dialogue was word for word and one wonders if the 1944 screenwriters Jules Furthman and William Faulkner were PO'd, compensated or just ignored.

Whatever you think of Clint Walker, Peggy Castle ain't no Lauren Bacall, and Ralph Moody is a pretty pathetic Walter Brennan. We won't even talk about Hoagy Carmichael's counterpart.

I don't mind "remakes". With the passage of time between versions, different nuances come into play, different characters can give the newer work a more contemporary slant, etc.

I'm not sure these thinly veiled rip-offs of Cheyenne episodes using warmed-over, reworked, rewriten, scripts constitute valid remakes.

Well, we've got to take this in perspective. Full-length motion pictures are commercial productions, and if they serendipitously turn out to be artistic works, more the better. In the case of weekly TV serials, these were cranked out at a high rate of production and they were probably scrambling for an ample supply of scripts. I don't know that anyone ever thought the Cheyenne episodes would be artistic works. I certainly enjoy watching these again (I was six years old when the episode I refer to was made) and in many ways they are superior to current offerings.

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Warner Brothers To Sue Warner Brothers.
I'd Love To See That.

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The episode entitled Storm Riders was a ripoff of the old Warner's film, They Drive by Night. That movie was based on a novel whose author later was a creator of The Big Valley

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I just watched an episode called BRANDED which lifted the ending of ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES. Instead of Cagney, it was Edd ("Kookie") Byrnes who was asked by Cheyenne (not Pat O'Brien)to go to the hangman's noose as a coward. Byrnes did, but not as ambiguously as Cagney.

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I wonder how many Maverick episodes were remakes/ripoffs from other Warner Brothers Movies/CHEYENNE Episodes?
Or for that matter,lets put "ALL" Warner TV Shows under the microscope.
To quote Maxwell Smart:-
"And Loving It".

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"was asked to go to the hangman's noose as a coward."

Wouldn't be very hard to do.

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Todays episode... was "Prisoner of Moon Mesa". But, it was more "The Barretts of Wimpole Street". The 1934 and 1957 version's were produced by MGM. However, saying that...at the time of the original broadcast of "Prisoner of Moon Mesa" I probably wouldn't have knowN about the "Barretts of Wimpole Street". And enjoyed Cheyenne for what it was.

"The Trap" is one episode I remembered. Perhaps because the theme wAS repeated on "Wagon Train" and "The Big Valley" and "Magnificent Seven".


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The Trap was written by character actor, Leo Gordon, who played the heavy in a few John Wayne Westerns. He was also "Big Mike" (McComb) on Maverick.

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Written by that Leo Gordon. A very well known Hollywood character actor. His list of credits is taller then I am. Thanks for that tidbit.

Edited to add:

I looked up his writing credits. All these years, I've been watching him (and listening also to his written words). He also wrote the screenplay to one of my favorite films: Tobruk.

Thank you again!

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Gordon played Geraldine Page's hubbie who was killed by Hondo (John Wayne). In McLintock, he played the settler who John Wayne called "pilgrim" before decking him into a pool of mud.

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Much of art is inspired by other art - and why not? In the theater, you even see the EXACT SAME PLAY over and over again - but with different actors and directors. So it still is different every time.

I think it's interesting to take a known story and put it into another environment. By example, the "Dr. Jeckill and Mr. Hide" idea has been used in many SciFy series (I still enjoy watching the "good" and "bad" Captain Kirk). And how often has "Romeo and Juliet" been used and re-used in movies and series of any genre?

Don't call it ripoff - just call it quote. Sounds nicer ;o)

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Supposedly Star wars was inspired by Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress. Kurosawa was heavily influenced by Western director, John Ford. But, what I want to know about Cheyenne is, what episode was a rip off of Treasure of Sierra Madre.

Anyone have an idea?

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What a great episode.
The 3 main leads played their parts perfectly.
I even enjoyed the "Baddie".

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Thank you!

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THE ARGONAUTS with Rod Taylor and Edward Andrews.

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WEST OF THE RIVER, which I watched yesterday, is a very blatant rip-off of THE CHARGE AT FEATHER RIVER. The poster complained about Cheyenne's hat, but the truth is Walker was costumed to match footage of Guy Madison as were several other actors in the show to match the originals.
Whole chunks of footage were lifted from the movie. I was expecting arrows and tobacco juice to come flying out of the tv screen.

I wrote my first screenplay a few years ago which was inspired by THE WAGES OF FEAR. Instead of four tough guys, I had women driving the trucks.

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And A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS was a remake of Kurosawa's YOJIMBO...and THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN was a remake of THE SEVEN SAMURAI...and Kurosawa's THRONE OF BLOOD was a remake of MACBETH...and Kurosawa's RAN was a remake of KING LEAR...and so on, and so on...

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For myself, it isn't the "ripoff" part that I don't like, it's the fact that many of the episodes were attempting to be complete clones of the films they ripped off.

As they were, obvious rip off shows, they were less of "rip off" shows that "homage" and "showing honor to" shows. Much like kids playing make believe, only set down to the last detail.

If a show is a "rip off", it tries to disguise itself. They never disguised a thing. One thing that should be remembered, and isn't clear to people today, is that the films were shown in theaters, and then eventually some made it to TV, but the wait was long. Episodes like Cheyenne's treasure digging episode were for people who may never get to get TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE, which at best would show once every five years on a movie special on one of the three major networks. The "movie special" was usually a classic on Sunday night, and that's the only time one could see a classic film. There were no DVDs. Only the Rockefeller family could afford cable.

Still, knowing this, I'd rather Cheyenne writers would make some changes. Maybe the Treasure of the Sierra Madre episode could have ended with the Bogie character coming back to his senses, and avoiding the catastrophe. Maybe the Along the Great Divide episode could have had the deputy character not turning bad. Or anything different. Why make the same show? to me, that's got to be Hell for a writer to do, to just copy completely.



Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time

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Just watching the episode "THE TRAVELERS" (Season 1, Ep 6) and I have seen that story line before and finally figured it out. It is almost identical to the 1951 western "ALONG THE GREAT DIVIDE" starring Kirk Douglas. The actor Morris Ankrum plays the same part in both features.


You can imagine how bad I wanted my $25 back, huh?


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At least the screen writer (Walter Doniger) was the same in both cases so technically it wasn't a ripoff :)

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