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the new godzilla is awful


What a shame the trailer made it seem dark and innovative like the original.

The director even said it would be closest to the original.

Then we get a silly superhero type film for kids and teenagers.
Was just Hollywood cheese. Transformers without the robots.

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I haven't seen it yet so can't comment personally, but what you say is pretty much in line with most reviews, plus many of the clips I have seen.

But what I appreciated most was that every review I read or heard said how great the original was -- not just the fact that the 2014 re-do isn't anywhere remotely as good, but that the 1954 film is on its own merits so outstanding and meaningful.

Thanks for your post, ryanhebbs.

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I disagree. The new film I felt was good entertainment that unlike the dreadful 98 Devlin-Emmerich piece of garbage, maintained more of a reasonably serious tone, depicted the people as professionals and kept it free of smart-assed humor and annoying comic relief, and also kept it agenda-free. My first trip back to a theater in seven years was not a waste!

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Relativism, relativism, relativism! Still at it, huh?! Eric, I thought you didn't believe in moral relativity!

Godzilla 2014 isn't good just because Godzilla 1998 was so absolutely awful. It may just be relatively better.

But I'll be able to judge how good/bad/indifferent it is when I finally see it. I'm waiting for the crowds to thin out.

However, my point is that whatever the reviews of 2014, all said that the 1954 original -- the picture on whose board we're chatting so enjoyably -- is still unsurpassed. That's an opinion with which I think we all can agree!

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Moral equivalence remains dead. Godzilla 98 is the focus of evil in the world, and Godzilla 14, while not perfect, is a noble and commendable effort for the force of "good" G films! :)

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Oh, well, now that you've explained it...!

You know, though I haven't yet seen 2014, from the clips I've seen it sounds like they changed G's classic roar. I certainly didn't hear it anyplace. Is this so, say it ain't?

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I just felt tricked.
They advertised something interesting but delivered a run of the mill Hollywood superhero blockbuster.

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I just felt tricked.
They advertised something interesting but delivered a run of the mill Hollywood superhero blockbuster.
I don't understand how anyone can still feel tricked by Hollywood advertisements at this point. It really ought to be general common sense by now that they're full of sh!t. This is why I don't watch movie trailers anymore. I got sick of watching a movie based on what I saw in the trailer and finding it to be an entirely different film from what it was suggested it would be.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Goethe

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from the clips I've seen it sounds like they changed G's classic roar. I certainly didn't hear it anyplace. Is this so, say it ain't?


Don't worry Hob; the big guy still frikkin' sounds like Godzilla alright! Sure it's modified from the original 'leather glove stroking the strings of a base fiddle', but then again, I think ALL the Goji films subsequent to Goji-54 were changed, too.





Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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Thanks, nickm2. I think the original Gojira-roar was basically the same down the decades, though certainly re-recorded for successive movies. But I'm not sure about the two American versions.

I remember that, in the initial, butchered American release of Gojira no gyakushu/Godzilla Raids Again (the one where they didn't call him Godzilla but Gigantis the Fire Monster), they reversed the roars of Gigantis/Godzilla and his monster nemesis, Angurus, so that the latter had Godzilla's roar. Apparently this was to further throw off audiences in another effort to convince them that they weren't actually seeing a Godzilla movie. More brilliant Hollywood marketing.

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you havent been to a cinema in seven years, and the first film you pick is godzilla?

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you havent been to a cinema in seven years, and the first film you pick is godzilla?


The *only* film I intend to pick. That's my choice and my business.

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he *only* film I intend to pick.


The most enjoyable Sci/Fi/Fantasy/Action movie I've enjoyed this year other than Captain America--Spidey & the Xmen hold no interest to me, and Frozen is a kiddie movie;










Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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I'm a fan of the classic older Godzilla films, but that's not the reason I did not care for the new 2014 GODZILLA; it was because the characters were really dull and cardboard cut-outs that you couldn't invest in. Plus, Godzilla was not utilized often enough. The movie itself felt too long at 123 minutes, and there were far too many "co#@ teasing" scenes where it appeared we might get something finally occurring worthy of interest, but then we always got an abrupt cutaway.

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And so I heard from other folks too...but those aspects didn't bother me that much; At least there weren't any incoherent ADHD/seizure inducing sequences like there were in the Transformers trilogy--AND I liked the trilogy. Based on Edwards' previous film, 'Monsters', he liked to be coy with the audience RE: seeing the monsters & have the characters do a lot of talking.
All in all-when the creatures appeared the movie started to 'cook'-Goji was just the high point.





Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?

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These complaints about the characters as dull and cardboard leave me wondering what kind of characters would they have preferred? I'm probably giving them a pass more from the fact that they're nothing like the awful, smart-assed characters of the 98 film. They're more believable as characters to me when I make that comparison (and even more believable than the humans in most of the Toho Godzilla films. Let's be honest. Other than the characters in the first one like Serizawa etc. how many human characters can you REALLY remember in particular as stand-outs?)

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These complaints about the characters as dull and cardboard leave me wondering what kind of characters would they have preferred?


For me, if you're going to devote a huge chunk of a Godzilla movie to involvement with other characters other than Godzilla, you'd better at least make them interesting. Or have charismatic actors in the parts -- and I did not think G '14 offered us either. I think this type of film needed more Godzilla placed throughout. Some fans have said that the 1970s also had some exposition by human characters without much Godzilla, but let us remember that those movies ran only 90 minutes in total whereas Godzilla 2014 ran an unnecessary 123 minutes. So it wasn't nearly as boredom-inducing for me with the old movies.

I'm probably giving them a pass more from the fact that they're nothing like the awful, smart-assed characters of the 98 film.


GODZILLA 2014 looks like Citizen Kane compared to that garbage 1998 travesty which in no way was Godzilla.

They're more believable as characters to me when I make that comparison (and even more believable than the humans in most of the Toho Godzilla films.


The human characters to me were far more interesting in most of the old Toho films of the 50s, 60s, and 70s (not as much in the '90s and '00s).

Let's be honest. Other than the characters in the first one like Serizawa etc. how many human characters can you REALLY remember in particular as stand-outs?)


I'll be honest. The Serizawa character in the first GOJIRA (1954) alone is enough for me, and already far more interesting than anyone in the new movie. I also find the lead woman and hero better than the husband and wife in the new film. The old professor is more credible to me than the token Japanese man in G-2014 (who they also felt should be named 'Serizawa', which are cheap and obligatory homages prominent in all these new reboots, and a practice which I deplore). But even if there WEREN'T any standout human characters in GOJIRA, it was the very first Godzilla movie and the threat of the monster is very new, very fresh, and there is an undercurrent of despair and the message about the dangers of war and dropping bombs. So much more to be intrigued with. The build-up before we see Godzilla in the flesh is also involving.

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