No remake.


Remakes just prove Hollywood is out of ideas.

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I thought the film failed to do justice to the book, because the book is too long and psychologically complex for one film. If it were to be remade, a TV miniseries would be appropriate. The biggest obstacke to a remake would be the difficulty in fining actors as good as Bogart, Ferrer, Johnson, and MacMurray.

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A miniseries -- which the book really requires -- would need the cooperation of the US Navy, which would be problematic, and would also be expensive. The tendency of Hollywood is to save money by shortening action scenes and concentrating on the small-scale personal dramas. That what happened to "From Here to Eternity."

If they made a miniseries out of "The Caine Mutiny," we could expect to see a romantic drama involving Keith and May Wynne, played by unknowns, with an occasional reference to the Navy. Lots of inexpensive night club sets. Lots of May Wynne singing love songs. Nobody would smoke or curse. There would be some stock footage of battleships firing their main batteries.

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How do you find an actor today who could come anywhere near Bogart as Queeg?
No remake.

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The other comments remarking on the differences between the novel and the film are on-target. I also agree that only something along the lines of an HBO mini-series could do it justice.

All that is preface to the following points. First, if a proper adaptation was done for the screen, it wouldn't be a remake. The film lifted themes and sequences from the book, but didn't cover the half of it.

Second, no substitute for Bogart would be necessary. The character was extensively rewritten to suit an actor of his age. In the novel, Queeg is an inexperienced young officer who's never held command - and it's made clear that the Navy was pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel for available officers - rather than a battle-weary middle-aged one. The book draws both parallels and contrasts between the immaturity and inexperience of Keith and Queeg, and illustrates how one comes of age and meets challenges, while the other crumbles under the pressure.

Don't misunderstand: I love the film and think it's one of Bogart's very best performances. But to portray Queeg as written in the novel, an entirely different type of actor would be required. As I read it, I kept envisioning someone like Philip Seymour Hoffman, although he, too, is now too old for the character as written.

I really can recommend the novel. I read it for the first time no more than a couple years ago. It's gripping and absorbing, and will put the film version out of your mind, giving you a whole new slant on the characters and the story.


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I completely agree with you that a miniseries -preferably by HBO- would be required to do the book justice.

One thing I do need to slightly disagree with you about is Queeg's level of experience. He was in command of a ship for the first time, and it was his undoing. However, he HAD a great deal of experience at sea prior to that. He alluded to having had about four straight years of sea duty and Captain Grace, in a gentle attempt to see if Queeg would like to be reassigned, suggests that he's long overdue for shore duty.

The problem was that Queeg had only been a subordinate officer in his other postings, and had always done a good job. He'd never had ultimate responsibility for a ship and its crew before and that's what caused him to crumble.

The Willie/Queeg contrast is that each of them perform when he becomes the Captain of the Caine. Queeg's tenure is a disaster marked by poor morale and bad decisions. Willie, on the other hand, is able to keep the ship from being damaged while it's anchored at Okinawa during a typhoon -which earns him the respect and trust of the crew- and runs the ship competently and confidantly.

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Thanks. If I oversimplified or stated it poorly, it was inadvertent, as I was focused more on the differences between the character as portrayed in the film vs the book. I recall that you put it better in an earlier post, so I sought it out:

"In the book, it's implied that it wasn't his years of service that did him in. It was simply being in command of the ship."

It strikes me that the "novel" Queeg was pretty much an embodiment of the Peter Principle; that's all I really meant to convey. Would that be fair to say?


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I agree. Remakes are usually inferior to the original and are made because Hollywood is trying to squeeze more money out of the same idea.





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