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1955 Oscars: 7 nominations and no wins?


Just watched this great movie again on TCM (01-20-2016). A true classic.

How did The Caine Mutiny not win any of the 1955 Oscars with 7 nominations, including Best Picture and Best Actor (Humphrey Bogart as Capt. Queeg)? Tom Tully (Comdr. DeVriess) was also nominated for Best Supporting Actor, but this seems like a sentimental nomination. While Tully was a great and apparently well-liked character actor, his performance was nowhere near the Oscar-worthy performances turned-in by Fred MacMurray, Jose Ferrer, and Van Johnson.

Unfortunately, The Caine Mutiny was up against On the Waterfront that year with 9 nominations and 8 wins, including Best Picture, Best Director (Elia Kazan), and Best Actor (Marlon Brando). Just my opinion, but I think the Academy voters were overly-enamored with On the Waterfront, considered edgy and modern at the time. While On the Waterfront is a good movie, I think The Caine Mutiny with its many outstanding performances has held-up better over the years. Bogart's performance still hits me in the gut every time.

The Caine Mutiny's 7 Oscar nominations: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046816/awards?ref_=tt_awd

The 1955 Oscars: http://www.imdb.com/event/ev0000003/1955?ref_=ttawd_ev_1






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Entirely disagree. On the Waterfront is one of the truly great films and Kazan is a much better director than Dmytryk. Waterfront's theme of a person's courage against tyranny far outweighs that of Caine Mutiny.

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I'm going to agree with the OP.

I think The Caine Mutiny is the superior classic, and I do agree that at the time the critics got caught up with the more edgy movie, and its very trendy star in Marlon Brando.

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I don't agree. On the Waterfront is a boring, anti-union propaganda piece. Kazan was known as someone who named names to the House Un-American Activities Committee and this film was his way to justify what he had done. Standing up for the bosses (not against the bosses) takes little courage, and rarely makes good art.

Oscar voters, as always, got caught up in what's popular/cool/trendy at the moment. I think we would all be better served if the Oscars were given out five years after the movies came out so the Academy would have have plenty of time to see which stories, performances and achievements actually stood the test of time. (Rocky, Titanic & Forrest Gump won but Citizen Kane, Goodfellas, & All the President's Men didn't?)

The Caine Mutiny is amazing. The way you feel so uncomfortable for and with Captain Queeg. Very few performances can make you feel that.

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When you write that Brando and On the Waterfront are "edgy" aren't you saying they are more intense? Brando represented a novel, exciting style of acting, a new level of the art. Bogart is excellent but not more deserving than Brando. Also, Brando was passed over in 1951 for Streetcar Named Desire in favor of, if I'm not mistaken, Bogart in The African Queen. Perhaps Academy voters had this in mind.

To write the film is boring is absolutely ludicrous and I doubt any other poster would agree with you. You appear to hate the film because you don't like Kazan's politics. This is not the way to judge a film except in a totalitarian country, where everything is made political. This is where the U.S. Is trending today under pressure from the radical ("progressive) left.

The blacklist was a terrible period but the fact remains that American communists, under the direction of the Kremlin, were attempting to infiltrate Hollywood craft unions including screenwriters. Every one of the Hollywood Ten belonged to the CPUSA and as proven by our Venona decripts of KGB communications was an agent of Stalin. They were traitors. Not politically correct today, but fact. Ever hear of the Cold War, or was it all our fault (as perhaps Obama thinks)? If you read Paul Kengor's books on Reagan you will learn that, though a New Deal Democrat when he was president of the Screen Actors Guild in the later 1940s, he first became a staunch anti-Communist fighting against the communists' efforts to take over his union. His life was threatened and he had to sleep with a gun beside his bed. In a confrontation with the ringleader of the Ten, John Howard Lawson, he was told angrily by Lawson that democracy meant "socialism" not American democracy. Hypocritically, Lawson and most of the other Ten theatrically denounced the HUAC hiding behind the constitutional guarantee of freedom of speech which they were bent on destroying.

Again, many innocent people saw their lives wrecked, but there was serious communist subversion in Hollywood. This is the context in which Kazan named names.

One cannot fairly try to discredit a great film by smearing the director on political grounds. In fact, that is a communist tactic. Would you dismiss Eisenstein's Ivan the Terrible because it is meant to glorify Stalin? Kazan's art stands on its own terms. If you cannot see the greatness of the story, the intensity of the "edgy" acting and the stirring scenes, the innovative onsite cinematography and musical score by Leonard
Bernstein, then you are allowing yourself to be blinded by your politics. And your politics are based on a selective, tendentious view of the
period.

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I think that part of what torpedoed Caine at Oscar time was the then common practice of studio personnel voting, even being told to vote, for their studio's nominees. As it so happened both Caine AND On The Waterfront were Columbia, and it looks like Columbia told "their people" to go for Waterfront. Of the two films it was probably, due to its director, star, subject matter, even in its being filmed in black and white, the more prestigious looking and feeling film for that time (1954-55); while Caine, excellent as it is, was a big budget all-star Technicolor film, which may have,--odd as this might sound--hurt it with the Motion Picture Academy, as too "typically" Hollywood, while On The Waterfront had a more European "art film" vibe. My two cents...

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Seven Samurai
Dial M for Murder
Rear Window
La Strada

All came out in 1954... Touchez pas au Grisbi, Magnificent Obsession, Johnny Guitar too

None of these were even nominated for Best Picture... The Caine Mutiny is a great film but hardly the biggest injustice that year.

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Yes, though the classic status of The Magnificent Obsession and Johnny Guitar is rather retroactive. Both actually did very well at the box-office when they came out but neither was the kind of film that the Academy was likely to nominate for major awards. Those Hitchcock pictures were regarded as "light". Caine, in contrast, or rather its star, was featured on the cover of Time magazine. It was, as Waterfront's Terry Malloy might have put it, a contender.

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