I liked this movie, and I know it was supposed to be just a feel-good comedy... unfortunately... I believe it was quite predictable...
Some little changes would have made it better...
For example, the story could be told in a way that it is discovered only at the end that Joe was a journalist. For a little more drama, he could have also published the story... In fact, I believe that not publishing the story was quite unbelivable... There was no reason at all for the photographer not to want to publish the photos, he didnt connect that much with Ann anyway.
Another interesting twist would be if Ann knew everything all along, and was just fooling around with Joe. At the press conference, she could have appeared with a wig to ensure that no one would believe she was the one in the pictures. Another good addition would be if the princess gave Joe a job out of gratitude.
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You're right, the story is rather predictable and any potentially interesting conflicts are skirted. For me what makes the film so memorable is:
1. The amazing performances by the two brilliant leads (whose romantic chemistry is almost palpable) 2. Eddie Albert's bumbling slapstick 3. Rome! 4. The wrenching (and wholly unpredictable) ending
Princess Ann took total charge of her life after her encounter with Joe. Her journey had to begin in innocence and discovery - to have had her string Joe along would have destroyed the charm of their relationship, and it would have made his burial of her story pointless rather than heroic. While Ann found strength, Joe found his inner honor as a gentleman. What kind of job would she have given him? Footman? And why would she want him around her, knowing that they could never connect again. The ending as is is truly wrenching, realistic, and as another has said, unpredicted.
To the OP, u may think this is boring and predictable because yes it's been done many times, but u forget that it was a first for a 1950s audience. Many, many films these days follow the same basic formulas of these old movies and hope no one will notice. It's very rare when something original comes out of Hollywood, especially in the last 30 years. This movie was one of the first of its time.
It might've been interesting to have her somehow find out that he's a reporter during the first "goodbye" scene, and then get upset and storm off, and then have him let her know that he won't print the story and her let him know that she's forgiven him through cryptic comments and glances at the press conference. But it's pretty much perfect as it is, so it's really best not to mess with it.
I thought Irving (the photographer) connected with her well enough. Occasionally people show respect for a famous person's privacy. I have known a few famous people in my lifetime. I learned scandalous information about a couple of them that I've always kept to myself. I'm a private person, so that's probably why I don't have an urge to divulge what I know about others.
Or...what if at the end it turned out she wasn't the Princess but her doppelganger: some filthy, thieving, homeless prostitute; and when Joe gets home he finds all his stuff stolen and he has Herpes.
Half of my silly post was a joke, and half of it was proof that "twists" and "trick endings", although fantastic at times, aren't necessary. Sometimes character development and interaction is all you need.
Yeah, it was unbelievable that he decided not to betray the woman he had fallen in love with, and do so in a way that would lead her to conclude that he had been play-acting his love interest, thus probably making her cynical about love and men in general. Finding out that the first man you fell in love with was simply using you for money would be soul-shattering, worth ten years of therapy easy.
And it was unbelievable that Joe's best friend didn't wreck it for Joe in precisely the same way.
Now, if Hollywood were doing this today, they would have added a misunderstanding where Ann does believe for a while that Joe was using her, and he has to prove that his love was real. Though not a tenth as bad as your suggestions, that's still terrible screenwriting, because such misunderstandings are usually based on characters being stupid. Ann would have to suddenly decide that her previous conviction that Joe loved her had been wrong, and that makes her someone with no self-confidence in her own judgment of others; it's actually out of character.
That the movie is devoid of such out-of-character "twists" is one of the things that makes it brilliant.
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Now, if Hollywood were doing this today, they would have added a misunderstanding where Ann does believe for a while that Joe was using her, and he has to prove that his love was real.
True, it's too predictable. I like how this screenplay accomplishes a lot in the final scene by giving Anne fairly enough reason to believe Joe and Irving won't betray her "faith in relations between people." After she and Joe part ways she'll have even more proof when she sees that they didn't publish photos or details about her holiday.
I think Irving realized how much Joe had grown to care for Anne and was affected by that enough to respect Joe (and Anne's) wishes of keeping details of her holiday private. Maybe it was more common for people to be able to practice discretion back then.
I don't think the movie is predictable at all. For one thing, it’s categorized as a comedy which usually means a happy ending. The end of this movie is hardly happy or comedic. The expected thing would be for them to somehow end up together. Either Ann runs off with Joe, choosing love over duty; or he turns out to be a prince in secret or has enough royal lineages that make him a suitable husband for a princess. There are also a number of other directions in which the story could have gone but didn’t. I like the ending as it is; it's sad but realistic.
I like how this screenplay accomplishes a lot in the final scene by giving Anne fairly enough reason to believe Joe and Irving won't betray her "faith in relations between people." After she and Joe part ways she'll have even more proof when she sees that they didn't publish photos or details about her holiday.
I saw this scene differently because I don't feel she has to 'wait and see' what will happen. She knows before leaving the room that they won't publish the story and pictures. She already knows that without a doubt before she walks out of that room. Here’s why:
When Ann walks into the press conference and spots Joe in the group of journalists, she tenses up. He's looking right at her and is not surprised to see who she is. It can only mean one thing; she's been scammed. He's been playing her for a story. As she answers the question about her ‘illness’ she can't help but wonder if she'll soon be revealed as a fraud.
She goes off script in answering the next question; using it as an opportunity to speak directly to Joe. When she says, 'she has faith in the relationships between people', she's speaking directly to him, even looking at him. It's her way of saying she hopes she can trust him; that he won't betray her. All her 'handlers' are confused by this statement and look in his direction. I don't know if they know who he is or because that's the direction she's looking.
He gets what she's saying and immediately reassures her by saying something equally generic that others won't get but specific enough that she'll understand. He assures her he will not betray her trust. She's happy and thinks she's off the hook.
Again, off script from what her handlers want her to say, she says Rome was her favorite leg of the tour. A reporter follows up asking if that's true despite having been sick the whole time there. This time, she answers confidently knowing her secret is safe. She and Joe have had a conversation with everyone in the room listening in but, with the exception of Irving, have no idea what they’re talking about.
Almost as soon as she's able to breathe a sigh of relief, Irving steps forward with the other photographers and takes pictures with his lighter-camera. She's once again thrown. She changes the script again saying she'd like to meet the news people. This gives her a chance to get up close and personal with Joe but it turns out to also be a good opportunity for Irv to give her the pictures he's taken. Now she knows she's scot-free but at the same time it's sad because it marks the end of their time together.
I think Irving realized how much Joe had grown to care for Anne and was affected by that enough to respect Joe (and Anne's) wishes of keeping details of her holiday private. Maybe it was more common for people to be able to practice discretion back then.
Though theirs was a different relationship from Ann and Joe’s, Ann and Irving shared some bonding experiences too. He still saw her as fair game but Joe’s decision to scrap the story helped him begin to understand what a violation of her trust that would be. Besides, Irving saw for himself what a different person she is in her role as princess. The pictures he took showed her having fun but they could may not necessarily be dignified for a princess. They could tarnish her reputation and interfere with her ability to carry out her duties in a respectful manner. I feel Irving's decision has more to do with respect for her than his friendship with Joe.
Reporters today may be able to get away with more but I think reporters have always looked for an angle. If they can slant a story the right way, people will be interested. For instance, Joe could have easily written Ann’s story as an exposé that shows how the spoiled princess selfishly neglected her duties to go have an undignified romp in the streets of Rome or he could write a heart-warming piece about how the young princess, so eager to connect with the people, left behind all the perks of being a princess to spend the day living as a commoner. Today’s reporters might tend to sensationalize stories more because that’s what sells but they’re just as likely to slant it a different way if they feel that is what will attract readers. It’s all about selling the story to the widest audience.
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Please remember to read posts in context. I never said this film is predictable. What I said was predictable was clearly in response to the part I quoted from emvan regarding a hypothetical ending based on how Hollywood would handle it today.
I saw this scene differently because I don't feel she has to 'wait and see' what will happen. She knows before leaving the room that they won't publish the story and pictures.
I know she doesn't have to "wait and see" as you put it. I implied in my post that she's at least reasonably satisfied that they won't reveal her secret.
hka-3 says > Please remember to read posts in context.
I read the subject line and all the posts but I suppose I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Still, I think we see the movie differently. That's okay, it happens.
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I thought it was a very gentlemanly thing that both men chose to keep her secret. I think one of several reasons they did that was because they knew that if they leaked the pictures it would have hurt her image, which was very important to her, and would have reflected badly on her father and her government. Even leaking the pictures would have exposed the palace's official statements about her illness as lies. Also, they were touched by her sweetness, innocence, and vulnerability, and I don't think either of them wanted to cheapen or taint her memory of the experience, especially for money.
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