DVD narrow screen


Does anyone know why this movie and Shane, which were two early widecreen movies in the 1:1.66 format, are only released on DVD in the 1:1.33 narrow screen format?

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Here's the answer, from widescreenmuseum.com -

"In early 1953, just a few months after Cinerama made its sensational debut, Paramount kicked off the wide screen format competition with its release of 'Shane'. The film was photographed in ... the standard Academy 1.37:1 aspect ratio, but Paramount demanded it be projected with the top and bottom cropped to yield an unremarkable 1.66:1 aspect ratio on the biggest new screens that theatres could install."

An advantage of shooting the movie this way is that theaters which hadn't upgraded could still show the movie on a standard screen. Also, it could be shown later on TV without adding black bars or or doing an optical pan & scan.

So, on the DVD, you're actually seeing a little *more* on the top & bottom than movie theater audiences would have seen. But the composition isn't quite right; it's looser.

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/foyer.htm

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Thanks for the tip about the wide screen musuem, I have already added it to my favorites. Great site to find out everything you ever wanted to know about wide screen movies.

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HONDO's recommended aspect ratio was 1.85:1. It is not presented on the DVD that way out of ignorance of the studio.

Read more about the production of HONDO here:
http://3dfilmpf.org/info.html

-J. Theakston
http://centraltheater.blogspot.com

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They should always put the full filmed frame on a DVD or Blu-ray in an anamorphic format.

For films that were filmed in ~4:3 and intended to be shown widecreen, this is called full-matte. If you have a widescreen TV you can use the zoom feature to see the intended composition, but as a film buff I also want the option to see the rest of the frame, and it will also generally look better on 4:3 TVs.

They should never pan-and-scan a film. If it was filmed on widescreen film (or on ~4:3 film with an anamorphic lens) than the whole widescreen image should be on the DVD or Blue-ray.

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In 80% of all movies ever made, cropping the left and right will NOT effect your movie unless your so anal that you just have to see the end of a desk in a scene. What you have been lead to believe by these pretentious egotistical directors is that you have to see the whole film in letter box which has destroyed many of old movies. When they re-produce these movies in letter-box format, you lose so much of the body of the movie. TCM is a good sample on how to destroy good old movies.
I have a 52 inch screen, and most of the letter box movies I can only watch about 40% of my viewing area, the top and bottom are blacked out. You also lose the great close ups in movies and most of the movies are out of focus because of the small letter box slim thin line across your screen.

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lee1888: That sounds like the same clueless reasoning my grandpa has for why he hates letterboxing.

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you idiot young liberal brats need to listen and learn from your GP, then you wouldn't have grown up to be such an idiot.

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The IMDB Tech Specs for this movie are incorrect, just as they are for many other movies.

Hondo was filmed using the Academy Standard aspect ratio of 1.37:1 (actually 1.375:1 = 11:8) and that is the AR that both the 3D and 2D versions were shown at in its initial run. (The 3D version was only shown in a limited number of theatres and was pulled after less that a month). It may very well have been re-released in later years cropped (at top and bottom) to 1.85:1 but the original theatrical aspect ratio was 1.37:1. The DVD release shows the movie in the aspect ratio that it was originally intended to be viewed at.

As for Shane, it was also filmed at 1.37:1. However, after it was ìn the can the execs at Paramount decided to crop it (at top and bottom) to 1.66:1 for its theatrical release. They chose this AR because cropping it any further would have resulted in too grainy an image on the screen. This AR was also backward-compatible with their existing library of movies. Paramount continued to use this AR for a few years for movies that weren`t filmed in their large format negative VistaVision process. The DVD release also reflects how the movie was actually filmed.

In any event, neither DVD release is cropped at the left and right edges, so you do see the entire width of the images that 1953 movie goers saw.

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They are not incorrect. It was framed for widescreen (1.85). And it was more widely seen in at that ratio during its initial run. It is however apparently true that the all-media rig used was a matted system and so they could open up to 1.33 for theaters not equipped for widescreen.

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The copy TCM just showed today was in full wide-screen with no cropping.


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The op never thanked anyone. That proves he is an ingrate republican !

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