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'big game' hunting, just plain killing really


i just watched this film and found it unbearable. this 'big game' hunting thing, the Great White Hunter. gruesome. just an excuse to shoot down the large creatures that live in africa. shoot the lions then stand, along with the natives, next to the body for a photograph to show how big and brave you are. shoot the rhino... or shoot the tiger, stand, along with the natives, next to the body for a photograph to show how big and brave you are. i read a memoir not to long ago in vanity fair from someone who had gone big game hunting with hemingway, and talked about one such 'safari' they were on and they were so very proud of having shot a pair of new born zebra foals because they had them made into rocking horses for children. i know it's all of an era, but i don't have much time for the macho hemingway.

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Get a life, learn how to capitalize "I" if you deserve it. Small "i" for small person, get it?

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Yeah that's the most ridiculous post I've ever read on here, and I've read some ridiculous ones. Grow up. I'm so embarassed to have this post of yours that I'm off to bring down the first animal I can find.

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Not sure it needs to be on this thread for this movie, but I do agree with the sentiment that was stated. But hey, if you need to prove yourself for perhaps lacking something, then go bag a big one, OK?

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Hunting for food is generally OK with me; for mere sport, no. Here, the slaughter of endangered African animals is idiotic overcompensation, even though the dated script assumes it's good for the soul. Paul Theroux detests Hemingway because H. "admired bullies". Well said. Go watch The Roots Of Heaven and learn something.

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Yes, it is killing. Killing of animals big enough to kill YOU if you don't do it right. Badly portrayed in any movie I have ever seen, since two things are never (or at least I have never seen it portrayed) shown: 1. a real hunt (complete with actual tracking, and the danger of being injured or killed) and 2. The fact that ALL the meat (and I mean everything) is used by the village of the tracker/beaters/bearers.
The natives joined the hunts, assisted with bearing, and did all the handling of the kill. They get the meat except for a few steaks eaten by the hunters in camp. A big bull elephant that has been raiding and destroying their gardens, will provide a couple of tons of good meat for a diet that is pretty short of protein.
Giving the meat to the natives still continues today. Hunts are pretty tightly regulated, but all the meat goes to the village.

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I completely agree - the notion of the killing of wild animals as being something to be proud of is just a thing of the past. I don't think much of Hemingway, his writing and his hunting and bull fighting experiences. He was a poseur, full of inferiority complexes which he was unable to exorcise with all the 'macho' activities he was pursuing. The film, based on his book The Snows of Kilimanjaro is just rubbish; the best moments are the ones with the African animals on - they do much better job than Peck and Gardner took together

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There's not much to like about Hemingway. He was a selfish, self-indulgent baby, who eventually blew his own brains out. I'm only writing this, because the movie happens to be on TV. I just switched it off.

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Movie girl: I can't bear that either! Just lately my friend told me about an early 50's one with Janet Leigh - I have never seen - and they claim the animals are not killed on the safari. But my friend says it looks pretty realistic. I hope this was the case. Only realism. I cannot bear animal cruelty either! Whether for a film or not, it is hard to take and harder still to live in a world where there are people who really do kill these poor animals who never did anything to them. Reverse the luck and if they were the one in the line of fire they would finally get it. To me, these guys are not macho; in fact, just the reverse.

Another film very very hard to watch is The Macomber Affair with Gregory Peck and Joan Bennett. The wife can no longer bear what her husband has done; he has
destroyed her life (along with his animal targets).

I am sorry to say that Hemingway, yes a brilliant writer but undeniably was a big game hunter. It is very hard to watch these scenes in films and know that they were shot in reality.

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When I was very young I shot animals for sport, just for the fun of gunning them down. One day, after having put a quarter-inch buckshot through a raven's head and watching it fall to the ground, I felt sadness and remorse. That was the last time I hunted. I still believe killing animals is justified for food or self-protection, but shooting something merely for the entertainment value of watching it die and putting its head on your living room wall is sick. I wish I had figured that out sooner.

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What a sweet post! I'm blowing you a virtual kiss!

But if you ever want the fun of stalking wild animals, but you don't want to hurt them, I can't recommend birdwatching or wildlife photography enough. Especially with wildlife photography, you can decide on a quarry, even a rare and untouchable one like a California Condor, and go look for it and stalk it and capture your quarry (on film)... and then you can plaster your digital "trophy" all over social media, without bothering your quarry.

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