The scenes where Dude (obviously a gay underground nickname), Stumpy (anatomical description?) and Colorado (fresh meat!!!) talk about their "guns" and compare "guns" and use each others "guns" and discuss "hair triggers" on their "guns", and handle each others "guns" and wow!!! This HAS to be gay, right?
shareGet some professional help.
shareActually, this was a sarcastic response to all the nitwits who "see" a gay subtext in Red River, and also bashing their rationale for the viewpoint. Just a joke- you know what they say about people who can't take a joke.
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shareHey folks,
Anyone familiar with the Captain's posts would have known his original post on this thread was pure sarcasm of the finestkind. I know exactly what he means about some folks just having to see "gay" messages in just about anything and everything, and then a thread goes on and on for miles about something that is just plain stupid.
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Dave Wile
In my experience the "Captain" is something of a loud, self-righteous reactionary with little tolerance for anyone of contrary opinions.
Still, as to his OP, I like the sarcasm (though it's hardly of the "finest kind") and actually agree with his point, though perhaps he should have posted it on the Rio Bravo board. However, lots of people read lots of things into lots of films that aren't there. It's not just confined to alleged gay themes.
That said, in this case -- meaning Red River -- that unsubtle "my gun is bigger than yours" exchange has long been acknowledged as a sexual -- not homosexual -- subtext to that scene. It isn't gay but its meaning isn't exactly mysterious. The dialogue and the inference were quite deliberate. Or does the OP think the screenwriters were so dense that they missed it even as they wrote it?
All I saw in that scene was two cowboys admiring their guns. By your reasoning every member of the NRA is gay!
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No imagination, Os! Don't look at the scene, listen to it. I just saw the movie again four days ago. The sexual innuendo is about as subtle as an anvil.
And as I wrote, it's not a gay subtext. It's a straight one...but it's there nonetheless.
I'll have a look at that scene tonight and get back to you tomorrow with my thoughts.
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Okay. Meanwhile I'm watching The Guns of Navarone. Ooooo...! Those guns are just so huge!!!
shareI watched it hob and I'm still of the opinion that they were discussing guns, and not penis' (or should that read peni?)
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Yes, they were discussing guns, but the screenwriter's subtext was plain and deliberate. It wasn't an inference between them as it was between the script and the audience.
However, either way, it's no big deal.
WHY would the screenwriters put a homo subtext in that scene? what the hell has it got to do with the plot?
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Like I said, it's not homosexual, just sexual. It has nothing to do with the plot other than being a verbal means of stressing the rivalry between the two. It's actually pretty funny.
If it wasn't intentional, Borden Chase was a much dumber writer than the evidence supports!