fonda and oscar


i like this movie,so bias exists,fonda was thursday.is there any reason he was not nominated? well,now that i have read the bio here,did it have anything to do with his falling out with jimmy stewart?

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1. Henry Fonda never really had a "fallout" with Jimmy Stewart. The political different they experienced was very brief and both actors agreed very quickly that their friendship was far more more important than politics, even if they both represented strong principles. Besides James Stewart is far too much of a man of integrity to harm his friend over political issues.

2. It is possible that Fonda was not 100% in favor among the heads of Hollywood at the time since he did not support the actions of the House Un-American Activities Committee. His disagreement with Hollywood politics at the time was certainly part of the reason he decided to move to the East Coast. However it was not by any means the only one and it would be a great extrapolation to conclude automatically that his political views were the reason he was not considered for Oscar nomination or his role in Fort Apache.

3. I do agree that Fonda's performance was outstanding and perhaps worthy of a nomination for its sheer departure from his usual portrayals at the time. Yet you must also consider that Laurence Olivier did deserve his Award in the leading role of Hamlet.

4. It is always difficult to fathom the reasons why some actors or directors or movies are considered for oscar nomination while others are not. Fonda had been cheated many times of such recognition until he received his 1982 Oscar. Sadly though, he is not the only Hollywood contributor with the same problem.

Consider that Alfred Hitchcock never even received an Oscar in his entire prestigious and extraordinary career, although he was nominated 4 times.

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Sorry, but awarding Olivier the Oscar for performing the role of Hamlet is the same as awarding a rock guitarist an award for performing the guitar solo of Stairway to Heaven on film.
What Fonda did in this role was not only perform but create a character with an impact worthy of the bitchiness of his daughter Jane.

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Olivier really deserved the Oscar in my opinion. I watched Hamlet in its stunning criterion release; and I conclude that the film and its director both deserved their share of awards.

Now Fort Apache is very good, and I like it, but Hamlet is even batter.

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Fonda was not nominated because he was graylisted


More baloney from willie. Not only was Fonda passed over that year, but so was Bogart in TREASURE OF SIERRA MADRE. Not that the other nominees were that strong (Clift -- yes; Lew Ayres, Dan Dailey, Clifton Webb less so). But Westerns were still considered a second-class citizen among the Academy voters then. Fonda also was ignored for his comeback (after WW2 service) role as "Wyatt Earp" in MY DARLING CLEMENTINE two years before -- no graylisting then.

willie constantly talks through his hat, instead of just crapping into it.


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Bogart miscast in SIERRA MADRE??? Stewart graylisted his best friend Fonda??? willie, what have you been smoking???

Fonda preferred stage to film, found a perfect vehicle in "Mr. Roberts." Nobody forced him, he went happily.


"I've been beaten up but I'm not beaten, and I'm not quitting"

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Gee, I never knew Jimmy Stewart had such power in the movie industry. I always thought that after being off the screen for five years (saving willie's sorry ass), he returned to mixed reviews on his first few postwar films. And now willie says he had such influence that he prevented his best pal from being Oscar-nominated, and drove him out of the movies for years. Gee, Hank was sure a forgiving guy, considering Stewart his best friend during all that time and all the way to his death.

By the way, Fonda was not a member of the First Amendment committee that went to Washington in 1947 to protest the HUAC hearings. So if he was graylisted, then how come those who did go -- Bogart, Bacall, Gene Kelly, Danny Kaye, Richard Conte, etc. -- continued to work steady in the industry in the years after?

Oh, and fellow "graylisted" performer Lloyd Bridges made a dozen movies after HIGH NOON before beginning his successful "Sea Hunt" TV series. Pretty busy for a graylisted guy. And other NOON cast members -- Cooper, Grace Kelly, Katy Jurado -- all found acting jobs as well. Willie -- as usual -- is lying through his crooked teeth.


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Jane told me


Jane told YOU?????? willie, drinking that ripple is really making you more delusional than usual. Next you'll be telling us that Marlene Dietrich aborted your baby, and that you didn't get the role in HIGH NOON because you were a draft-dodger.


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Fonda was not gray-listed, nor was Bogart that year. Fonda headed east to do "Mr. Roberts" on Broadway, followed by "Point of No Return." He preferred stage work to movies.

Noting also that Eddie Dymytryk got a nomination for directing CROSSFIRE the year before (1947), as did John Garfield for acting in BODY AND SOUL. Winning film GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT got a bunch of nominations, and those were all in the months immediately following the HUAC investigations.


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Hank's choice, birdbrain. He preferred the boards to the cameras, a live audience to just an appreciative crew. And "Roberts" was a beloved project.

Besides, why pick on Fonda? Bogie kept working, so did Bacall and Richard Conte and Gene Kelly and Katharine Hepburn. They were much more vocal and active than he was.


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Bacall was bigger than Fonda in the late 40s? Dream on, birdpoop. Despite what Jane confided in you, her dad was not blacklisted or graylisted or any color listed. Conte and Gene Kelly and Danny Kaye kept working also.


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Check that Burt framed portrait again, birdpoop. Aren't his knuckles bruised in that one?


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First Cooper's image on your basement wall, now Lancaster, soon Fonda. No girls ever make it onto the wall of shame, huh birdpoop?

Blacklist continued into the early 60s, yet Fonda returned from Broadway triumphs in the mid-50s and worked steadily in films throughout the rest of the decade.


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Didn't you tear that picture of Grace off the wall with extreme violence when you discovered that she was sleeping around, bird?

Lifelong Democrat Fonda never would have registered as a Republican -- don't be ridiculous.


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If true (and that is highly doubtful), it sure removes Fonda as a profile in courage. That's as bad as testifying at HUAC hearings. So much for standing up for his beliefs. If Hank did that just to get reinstated in films again, than he would have been as despised as Kazan and Lee J. Cobb were. Since he was not, this story sounds fishy.


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