I forget the artist guys name but for some reason I really wanted Kate to end up with him. Like Glenn Ford had his chance and screwed it up, ya know. I just wanted her to leave him and then get together with the artist cause he was so adorable. Mean, but adorable. Does anyone agree or disagree?
shareThere were some good points about the artist, but over all he treated her shabbily. He told her the kind of love she wanted was foolish and didn't exist. He was extremely cynical. Kate needed someone who was more of a romantic like her.
shareAgreed, but I still think Bill was pretty easily taken away from Katie by Pat. That always ticked me off. He liked Katie so much and just forgot about her boom. Didn't really make sense.
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yeah his view of the world and how love works was different from hers (which, by the was, is foolish and doesn't exist and if people hold on to their hopes of love like that then they will never have happiness because they'll have spent their entire lives looking for something that can never live up to their expectations.)
but that doesn't mean he wasn't right for her.and he never really did treat her all that bad. he criticized her a lot, but he wasn't insulting her, and he also complemented her in his own little way a lot. Plus he was a whole lot more interesting than lighthouse boy.
The artist was played by actor Dane Clark. Dane was stated as saying he wished
his character ended up with the nice twin. He thought he had more chemistry with Miss Davis than she had with Glen Ford.
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God, no. What a self-involved, whiny prat. I kept thinking, "Get over yourself, you loser!"
Not that she should have ended up with Glenn Ford, either, considering he threw her over for Patricia.
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She had loads more sexy chemistry with him. The Glenn Ford ending irritated me because he just dumped her at the bloody dance. It wasn't as of they'd never kissed or anything-they WERE dating! Tool.
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Like Glenn Ford had his chance and screwed it up, ya know. I just wanted her to leave him and then get together with the artist cause he was so adorable. Mean, but adorable. Does anyone agree or disagree?
There was something about the artist that I found attractive. He seemed more exciting, and I think Kate should have went for him.
shareI thought the artist was HOT. I totally wished she had gotten together with him, too! Why haven't I heard more from this actor who played the artist? (Karnock)
shareSeriously! What woman with any spine would want her slutty sister's sloppy seconds?! Karnock, the artist (Dane Clark), appreciated Kate for who she was, and was sex on a stick to boot! Bill (Glenn Ford) was a boring, disloyal boob. Rewrite!
shareThe artist guy was whiney and annoying. Glenn Ford was a total douche. She could have done better than both of them.
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The artist was a sexist pig, an egotistical jerk, and a pain in the butt. I kept wanting Kate to kick him where it would hurt!
shareWhy oh why did she grovel and crawl back to Bill (albeit without knowing that Bill and Pat were at the point of divorcing) who shafted her for her sister without so much as a how do ya do?
The artist was cute, but he had a rotten personality. He's the type of schmuck who will end up alone because of his sucky attitude.
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Agreed. And while we women like brooding men, we don't like bitchy men. The artist's only purpose it seems was to bitch about her flaws.
shareabout taking back the Glenn Ford character? Hm.
Kate obviously had reason to be unhappy with him because he went with Pat. But I think the implicit point there was that Kate felt herself to be the personality that was less attractive to men in general. Low self esteem would be the basic take people today would have, but it was more complicated than that, as the film implies Pat always was more successful. More successful at getting money, at drawing attention in general, and specifically in getting men to pay attention to her. Is recognition of that history, that reality, really a function of low self esteem? Not necessarily.
Plus Kate had more reason to be annoyed with Pat, but seemed to accept Pat's actions and choice.
But those are only parts of the story. Kate also probably felt that Pat's marriage would not work out in the long run. That doesn't mean she intended to wait. But it does mean that when she discovered the marriage was failing, she would have felt that was Pat's fault, and that Glenn's character would not be seen as less attractive on that account.
Kate also was clear in why she was interested in teh first place, and fell in love. How rational that love was, or was not, is not the determining factor in whether she loved in the first place. Obviously.
Add it all up and it was plausible to me she would take him back.
The artist character would have rolled over like a puppy if Kate had given him a chance, watch his face when she leaves him after they kiss. His arrogant macho act was just defensive posturing.
Revenge is a dish that best goes stale.