I'm drunk right now
it's like ironic or something
shareIf you need any help finishing your novel I'd be happy to come over and hide your booze for you.
share That's fuuny!
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I wish it were funny. The first time I saw this movie, I drank a pint watching it, then went to the bar and drank till it closed, then puked my guts out staggering home.
I struggled with my compulsive drinking for for over 20-yrs; I've been sober for 3, and still hear the siren call from the bottle.
This movie is melodramatic, stereotypical and dated, but it rings so true--it's scary. 1's too many, 100's not enough.
Good luck, buddy; I've been there.
Good for you! There's nothing funny about what an alcoholic goes through.
shareI disagree. My entire family are alcoholic and wouldn't have it any other way - if there's nobody in your life to poo poo your choices, you can handle yourself and get your daily jobs done, what's the matter with needing to drink every day, all day? We find tremendous humour in alcoholism.
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Yes you do, but I'd venture a guess no one else does.
shareWhat a bizarre post.
shareYou say it's melodramatic. Melodrama does not observe the dramatic laws of cause and effect and can be sentimental and exaggerated. I don't think this film fits your description. The film has a "happy-ish" ending in that he finally writes his novel (we realise we are watching the result of his literary efforts) but does not suggest he suddenly conquers his addiction. A sterotype is a standardised form or concept and thus I think a useless word to describe an original and hard-hitting film. For it to be sterotypical it would have needed to copy previous films or literary themes. It did not. It doesn't matter if it HAS BEEN mimicked since; that isn't the point. And dated? It's old but it isn't any more dated than it could be for 1945.
sharewell said.
shareTop that!
Actually I'm not, it's the morning after and I'm trying to cram donuts down my gullet and keep from falling out of my chair.
But I was.
Sadly I only remember bits and pieces of the movie, but at least I won't have to call anyone and ask what I did.
Keep on burning, burning in my bloody brain.
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I am drunk too, i am a drunkard, and i LOVE this film!
shareAs one viewer put, Mr Wilder I am an avid movie goer and an alcoholic. After seeing your movie I will never see another movie again!
shareWhat's that line from Frank Sinatra-"I feel sorry for people who don't drink, because when you get up in the morning that's the best you're gonna feel all day!"
I don't drink myself, but I like that line!
BTW, LW would only be "dated" if human nature had changed between 1945 and 2006-but since people are still getting drunk to avoid failure (or success, which can be even scarier), there's little reason to think people have changed in the last six decades.
There are heavy drinkers and there are alcoholics. I'm an alcoholic. NOBODY becomes an alcoholic because their life is going wonderfully well. The party ended long before I decided to put the cork in the bottle for good. What's the difference between a heavy drinker and an alcoholic? The best definition I ever heard came from the actress Mercedes McCambridge who said: "An alcoholic is someone who drinks in situations where it's in their best interest NOT to drink".
shareI think this movie may best be complimented by a quote - the best I've heard pertaining to a drunk --
"never trust a man who doesn't drink because he's probably a self-righteous sort, a man who thinks he knows right from wrong all the time. Some of them are good men, but in the name of goodness, they cause most of the suffering in the world. They're the judges, the meddlers. And, son, never trust a man who drinks but refuses to get drunk. They're usually afraid of something deep down inside, either that they're a coward or a fool or mean and violent. You can't trust a man who's afraid of himself. But sometimes, son, you can trust a man who occasionally kneels before a toilet. The chances are that he is learning something about humility and his natural human foolishness, about how how to survive himself. It's damned hard for a man to take himself too seriously when he's heaving his guts into a dirty toilet bowl.Son...Never trust a drunk except when he's on his knees."
Such a dark quote. Where'd you get it from?
Black humour, indeed.
Drink plenty of water, drunk dudes. A gallon of pure water a day keeps the liver doctor away, remember that. The liver LOVES it when you drink water.
shareDrink LOTS of water after every drink, YOU HAD BETTER OR I'LL FIND YOU AND KICK YOUR BUTT. I'LL PULL YOU OUT OF YOUR BED AT 2 AM AND DO YOU REAL GOOD.
shareI was never a puker, but I was always happier when I was sober. Last year I managed to quit drinking for a month, this year I quit for two weeks, but the bottle always comes crawling back.
What's starting to scare me is now I can't remember what I do when I'm drunk, which I was capable of doing before.
I don't puke, I only drink beer. But maybe someone needs to kick my ass when I reach for that extra case at 3 in the morning.
I have to step in here. I know it has been 6 years from the original post, but it is something I feel very strongly about.
I drink a lot by myself, because I have no one to drink with me. My father used to take his bourbon & water with him to "work" in the garden when he got home
from work. There were 7 of us. My mom didn't drink - so did he drink alone?
Does drinking alone make one an alcoholic?
I have a HUGE aversion to anyone puking; in real life, on the screen, etc.I have not "v word" since 1963. I had flu. Starting to get confused here....TMI
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I'm watching the evening news to make sure i didn't do anything stupid last night.
shareIn all the time since my first drink I have never regretted my actions while under the influence, even some of the more degrading and malevolent ones. If a man cannot act without circumscription & truly learn something about themselves, then the fault lies within them and not in the bottle.
By the same token, if a man acts without the restraints placed upon all of us by regular society and finds himself to be a monster, it is understandable that he will hide from himself and blame all but not his own nature.
For all the evils that are said to come from alcohol not one of them looks to human nature as the well they are all drawn from.
Men may see alcohol as the cause of all their worries, but they are merely blaming the looking-glass.
Me, I'm a drunk. Clear differences between being a drunk and being an alcoholic.
An alcoholic believes they are hunted by alcohol, they believe it makes them a victim. It makes them a way they don't want to be. They decide to stop, but they cant. They decide to change, but they cant. They decide that if they stop the flow of alcohol thier problems will go away. But these decisions will always fail because there is a weakness that they are refusing to acknowledge, they are instead focusing on one element of their problem - and hey I don't blame them. If I was in their situation I'd blame the thing that seemed to make things worse too. I've been in that position before. Alcohol makes you more you than you can normally deal with, but does that mean there's a problem with the alcohol or you?
A Drunk, is someone who has faced this situation and triumphed. Hell, they may not have even had to face it in the first place because that’s just the type of person they are, but for the rest of us who have; we looked at ourselves in the lowest place and way we could be, we looked at our lives and what we'd done, we looked at our loved ones and what we'd done to them, we looked to our future to see where we were going and we accepted that it was only us that had been responsible, there was something there that needed changing, needed fixing, and we fixed it. This is the story of how an alcoholic becomes a regular person. A regular person can drink and get drunk as often as they want. Hence, the happy person who drinks and enjoys the virtues of alcohol, having triumphed over himself is a "Drunk".
If you define your problems by your drink, then you are lost, a recovered alcoholic is still an alcoholic, its not until they realise what their true problem is and fix it that they can stop fearing alcohol and be their own person. What they decide to do from there is totally up to them.
There are some people that can follow the path of the "recovered alcoholic" and become regular people. Their will is so strong that they can work through all the garbage, if they choose to signify this by cutting out booze altogether then so be it. But a drunk chooses not to cut anything out of his life - we'll keep our booze thankyou, and smile while we drink it too (cause we're happy)
All in all, I'm just tired of people running away from their own problems and pointing the finger at the innocents. Pointing the finger at booze makes about as much sense at pointing at a block of cheese and saying "I did all those things while I was feeling bloated - that’s the devils cheese".
Now, I'm going to go have a drink. All this talk is making me thirsty - Good day to you all.
Typical likker head with all your philosophies and excuses. Drunks are a pain in the ass.
Just cause a man likes to drink doesn't mean you have to enjoy his company, and for a small part, man, I agree, drunks can be a pain in the ass. Everyone has their follies.
So for someone who can exemplify a justified opinion I'm astounded by your lack of understanding - "Typical likker head with all your philosophies and excuses" - Rather than accept one mans opinion and retort with a level-headed argument you have decided to deflect my statements through associating them with a flawed generalisation of a social niche, explaining away the exhibited opinions as typical philosophies and excuses.
The simple fact is that the afore mentioned opinions are mine and mine alone, each formed from observations made during my own experiences with alcohol, the people who drink it & those that don't, the world they each live in and the unjust allocation of social stigma placed upon both by either party.
In terms of the excuses you seem to be hearing, I can only imagine you are hearing what you want to hear. There are no excuses to be made. I am what I am. In my statements I make no reference to explaining myself as a means of excusing my actions, rather, I explain my position regarding the generalised labelling of alcoholics and drunkards including the unjust stigma of enjoying a drink.
To tell the truth, I don’t know how to feel about your response. I was hoping for something a little more refined.
But, I guess, in the end, if you feel like taking pot-shots at those who would rather enjoy themselves freely while you misspell liquor, you are more than entitled to.
Hope you enjoy yourself, cause I sure am.
Cheers -
The main difference between a drunk and an alcoholic is that an alcoholic has to go to all those meetings... :)
"Never rat on your friends, and always, ALWAYS keep your mouth shut."
this was more than a year ago.. but still, way to repeat your long post on multiple threads. you must really get off on making people argue that you shouldn't enjoy drinking, huh?
your lifestyle is irrelevant to this board; have you even seen the movie?? the character is physically addicted to alcohol, in the third stage and final stage of alcoholism. people can and do die of physical withdrawal from alcohol.
that being said, it's fine for you to enjoy and consume it. if you haven't noticed, we live in a drinking culture. it's legal and ubiquitous. off topic, but marijuana is much less dangerous, is not physically addictive and yet is illegal in most places in the US (but not where I live, California, where it's legal with a license and referral from a doctor :) , and I'm quite sure you don't drink like the guy in the movie, because no one could argue that it's in his best interest to keep drinking. there are many different degrees of alcohol consumption, and no one can definitively call someone else an 'alcoholic', until it reaches that stage where it's just scary and sad, but no one's saying that will definitely happen if you drink... you're the one bringing yourself into this-- defensive are we?
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Yours is a very old post, but it gave me pause enough to decide to respond to it.
I just liked the way you articulated yourself not letting generalizations that sober people use to justify their perceived moral superiority, affect a critical self critique. Being that I suffer the same so-called vices that you have and don't consider it a weakness as so many judgmental people seem to conclude, I found it very insightful in the sense that "somebody out there seems to feel similar to the way that I do."
Everyone has something that gets them into trouble or causes them problems in their life, but that doesn't mean you need to kick it out of your life, when somethings are virtually impossible to get out of your life.
I feel that embracing the madness or what I like to call happiness, is the best way to live. I feel pretending to be something you're not in order to win the appreciation of other people is pointless, and NO ONE can truly know who they really are if they haven't been tested by alcohol and other vices that life sends their way.
In other words, alcohol is not really a vice, but a true key to self-discovery that the sober will NEVER discover within themselves!
Peace !!!
"I feel sorry for you folks who don't drink. When you get up in the morning, that's as good as you're gonna feel all day." -Dean Martin
shareHaha! Hi from 10 years in the future. Your subject line made me laugh. It's not ironic, though. Why are people so confused about the concept of irony?
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