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Female extra in two scenes?

posted 13 years ago by Eponymous-too
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This is a real long shot, but nothing ventured, nothing gained...

There is a female extra in the party scene and the trolley scene. In the latter she's the brunette on Garland's left who looks up and notices the boyfriend has made the trolley and she moves out of the way for him so he can sit down.

Does anyone know who she is? She looks vaguely familiar. She also has a really great face - very expressive.

There are two different women added to the "uncredited" list that are named "Girl on Trolley". One is Helen Gilbert and the other is Dorothy Tuttle. There is also a "Girl at party" played by Dorothy Raye. None of them have photos on their IMDB pages. Finally, there are two sets of performers - Music Maids and Group Seckler - that are not listed individually. I'm guessing she is among these choices, but I am not familiar with any of them.

"My name is Paikea Apirana, and I come from a long line of chiefs stretching all the way back to the Whale Rider."

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[–] Eponymous-too 13 years ago

Thanks. I'll do that.

"My name is Paikea Apirana, and I come from a long line of chiefs stretching all the way back to the Whale Rider."

[–] donofthedial 12 years ago

The sad thing is that she was ID'd on this forum by name and the person who ID'd her had been in contact with her and she was thrilled that people remembered her. And now all those older posts are gone. She was in other Judy films, too.......The Harvey Girls is the only other one which I recall.

This info is likely on line somewhere else as well.

And....she is noticed by SO many film fans! She almost stole the trolly scene from everyone else!

[–] donofthedial 12 years ago

Confusing people for years, but here is some info and discussion. But as I said in my post above, there was much information on the lady in a post that seems to have been deleted by IMBD for space reasons (I guess)

http://jgmb.judyandfriends.de/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4907&start= 30

[–] donofthedial 12 years ago

And here she is in SHIP AHOY @ the two minute mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6R8InADno6o&feature=endscr een

[–] Yowwzza_333 12 years ago

Helen Gilbert is blonde, but I don't think she was as blonde in the movie. She's also at the party and on the trolley. Helen Gilbert also played in another movie with Margaret O'Brien and had more of a role there and the one I pointed out on the trolley looks like her from the other movie I saw her in. Dorothy Raye is the one at the party with her hair in a low pony tail, dark hair, with blue dress and white lace top with a big blue belt around her dress. On the trolley she is in blue again but with polka dots with white lace on the sleeves, and she has a line it something like "I've always wanted to go to Skinker's Swamp" But Dorothy Raye was a contract dancer at MGM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F24fu46qLkQ at 0.32 the one in the middle is Helen Gilbert in the green coat with pink buttons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXvBPw6Uqc Dorothy Tuttle at 1.02 is the one in the orange dress in the middle.

I did find that Dorothy Raye died in 2003 :(

[–] sherm456 10 years ago

I'm serious when I say I'm totally crushing on her.

[–] bobk77 10 years ago

I see I am not the only one who noticed her. In the trolley scene she is on the right dressed in blue, with some red ribbon on her hat. She gives up her seat to John Truett. She is also in the background at the Christmas dance. She is the most beautiful woman in the movie. There seems to be different opinions on who she is. Anyone know for sure?

[–] sherm456 10 years ago

In the link that donofthedial provided, someone said confidently that she is Charlotte Hunter, but no evidence was given. IMDB also lists her as Charlotte Hunter.