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Between Two Worlds + Outward Bound



Both are going to be on TCM March 27th as a double bill. So we can all compare the two films.

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars". "Now Voyager"

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8:00 AM Outward Bound (1930)
Passengers on a fog-shrouded ship learn that they are lost souls on the way to heaven or hell. Cast: Leslie Howard, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., Helen Chandler. Dir: Robert Milton. BW-83 mins, TV-PG

9:30 AM Between Two Worlds (1944)
Passengers on a luxury liner realize they are en route to the afterlife. Cast: John Garfield, Edmund Gwenn, Eleanor Parker. Dir: Edward A. Blatt. BW-112 mins, TV-G, CC


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Now, if anyone can tell me what this would be in the mountain time zone, I will set my recorder now! (I don't have TIVO)

Been aching to get a cleaner copy of Between Two Worlds and a copy, period, of Outward Bound. I haven't seen it in at least fifteen years.


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Ok! According to my TCM guide Outward Bound will be on at 6am PDT, so it would be 7am mountain time and Between Two Worlds would be on at 8:30am mountain time. Because mountain time is one hour ahead of pacific time. I hope I haven't confused you! ha!


~Carolyn~

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars". "Now Voyager"

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Thanks!

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Your welcome! I hope you get a chance to record it. I've loved that movie since I was a child. I'm also looking forward to seeing OUTWARD BOUND, because I've never seen it before. I have heard it isn't as good as B.T.W.s but it should be fun to compare the two.


~Carolyn~

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars". "Now Voyager"

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I haven't seen it for about 18 years. I do know they followed the play fairly closely, but were very nervous about the whole idea of it being a fantasy, and a religious fantasy at that. I believe there is a printed intro to it, saying something about it being a fantasy and so on.

One of these days, I will have to go to Samuel French's website and order the play again. I had it, but misplaced my copy. And I have the book wandering around somewhere, but it is old and very fragile to reed.

I am really looking forward to it, and thank you for posting it on this list!

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This will make a nice double-feature "themed" tape.

It would be nice if Warners would issue a DVD with both films (as they did with HOUSE OF WAX (1953)/MYSTERY OF THE WAX MUSEUM (1933), DR JEKYLL AND MR HYDE (1932/1941) and GASLIGHT (1940/1944), but I doubt there's even enough interest to issue BETWEEN TWO WORLDS by itself.

"Stone-cold sober I find myself absolutely fascinating!"---Katharine Hepburn

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i second the suggestion! i'd certainly buy it.

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I just recorded them both and am still trying to decide if I should put them on one DVD or not.

Part of me says yes but the other part wants to stay orderly and have everything filed alphabetically.

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Since I already have Between Two Worlds on a disc, I recorded Outward Bound separately. I just watched Outward Bound and frankly I found it very dated and characters not nearly as developed as the remake. I liked the cast much better in Between Two Worlds. Loved the WB stable of actors, especially Sydney Greenstreet, John Garfield, Edmond Gwen and the lovely Korngold music score.

I'd love to here what others think?



~Carolyn~

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars". "Now Voyager"

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I like them both, but I have to agree -- the early one seems very stagy and dated. Also, (and maybe it was just Leslie Howard) I think Howard and Fairbanks should have switched roles. It would have gone over better.

I adore Greenstreet as the examiner, and maybe it's just that I am home sick with strep today, but every time I see the scene where the minister finds out his work isn't over -- that he is just getting started -- and he is so happy, it makes me want to cry -- evem more than when the lovers get to go back and live again.

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Ghostfan! I completely agree about the switching of roles, although it didn't occur to me when I was watching it. I think it may have been more effective. and I missed the two roles they added in BTW of the husband of Mrs Clive'Bankes and the prostitute. I missed their characters in the earlier version. And I agree with you about the minister. I just love his character he is so gentle and sweet.

I hope you feel better soon!

Bless You,
~Carolyn~

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars". "Now Voyager"

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Thank you! You are kind to say something. Strep is no fun, and I haven't had it in years.

I was just watching the movie again while I burned it to DVD. I definitely liked "Worlds" better. They both have a place in cinema history, but if I was having a bad day, Worlds is the one I would want to re watch. I missed the characters they took out of the other version.

Between Two Worlds leaves me feeling inspired!


BTW I love your signature. Now Voyager was one of my late mother's favorite movies.

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Now Voyager was my mom's and my favorite's too. She used to joke with me about wearing my black and white foullette or what ever that dress was called. ha!
One my dad's faves was Between Two Worlds. He loved the fantasy type of films, like Enchanted Cottage, Portrait Of Jenny, and The Ghost And Mrs Muir. He was a true romantic.


~Carolyn~

"Don't let's ask for the moon, we have the stars". "Now Voyager"

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Frankly, I came away not liking either film very much. I think they each have huge flaws, but if I had to pick one or the other, I like Outward Bound better. Yes, it's dated and not as well acted as Between Two Worlds. Leslie Howard in particular overacts badly in OB. However, I hated the melodrama that got inserted into Between Two Worlds. I didn't understand why they would change the alcoholic character from a broken-down, depressed man in OB to a sarcastic and annoying a*****e in BTW. I didn't understand why the piano player character in BTW is so fixated on making sure no one finds out that everyone's dead. For whose benefit is he hiding it? OB kept me watching because of its silent, fog-shrouded, toned-down atmosphere, which suggested mystery and dread. BTW, with its heart-tugging orchestrals and exagerrated soap opera theatrics pretty much just annoyed me the whole way through. I don't know why I needed to see John Garfield act bitter and sarcastic while playing with cards for what seemed like half an hour. OB focused on figuring out exactly what's going on with the characters--BTW instead focused on the characters themselves, and unfortunately did so without a good screenplay, so the characters came off as flat and annoying to me. Particularly bad was the added comic relief character in BTW (he reminded me of the Three Stooges with his unending dopey expression) all for the sake of one line where Greenstreet's angel commends him for doing heavenly work by fighting the Germans. How much more obvious propaganda can you get?

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See my response on the "Outward Bound" website. It is different from most of the talk here.

Nothing is more beautiful than nothing.

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I enjoyed both films - watched BETWEEN TWO WORLDS several months ago, and then OUTWARD BOUND 3 days ago, and then watched BETWEEN TWO WORLDS again yesterday. Each had its merits - the photography in the first was definitely much eerier, and I much preferred the original's slower realization that the people are dead - I have to say that I did find Leslie Howard a bit over-the-top - his performance started out on a hysterical level and simply stayed there - I liked the characters that were added for the remake, those played by Faye Emerson, George Tobias and Gilbert Emery - my favorite character in both versions is Mrs. Midget, though I have to say that Sara Allgood's performance in the role is just a bit superior to Beryl Mercer's (though I like Mercer very much) - Greenstreet, of course, dominates the final third of the film - the characters of Henry and Ann were expanded from the original, and Paul Henreid and Eleanor Parker fared somewhat better in the roles than Fairbanks and Chandler (then again, I like the under-rated Parker in just about anything!).

I thought it interesting that although the credits for BETWEEN TWO WORLDS simply indicated that the screenplay was "based on a play by Sutton Vane," in the first scene in the waiting room we see a board reading "Outward Bound" with no departure or arrival times for the ships.

"Stone-cold sober I find myself absolutely fascinating!"---Katharine Hepburn

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