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Reason for Major Tetley's suicide


I'm afraid this may seem like a really obvious matter, but I have seen the film several times and read the novel once, and I still find myself puzzled as to why Tetley killed himself at the end.

Was it because he had been the self appointed leader of the mob and acted as an authority figure, giving orders to the rest, so he may have seemed more guilty than the others?

Does his conscience really bother him that much? Or is it the idea of taking his own life privately, rather than go through the possible shame of a trial and execution publicly? His " good name" having been forever tainted?

Notice how the obnoxious loafer Smith tries to shift the blame on to Tetley at the end. Perhaps Tetley couldn't live with the thought of forever being held in contempt and blamed by the whole town for what happened, as if no one else had had anything to do with it. Almost a Nuremburg type defense, that they " were only following orders". On the one hand, Tetley was in fact more responsible than anyone else, organizing the events and appointing himself the leader of the mob. But he also would be a perfect scapegoat for the rest of the towns people to try to lessen their own involvement.


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"Or is it the idea of taking his own life privately, rather than go through the possible shame of a trial and execution publicly?"

That was my take on it.

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Major Tetley, despite not being all he appears, is probably the most gentlemanly of the mob.

On top of that, he was the one that tried to bring order to the mob, and do what he thought was right. So of course he then holds himself accountable for the actions of the mob.

Combine that with his own son practically disowning him, and you can pretty plainly see why if anyone in the mob was going to kill himself because of his actions, it would be Major Tetley.

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He considered himself honorable (whether he was or not) and his suicide was either a redemption of his honor or to avoid embarrassment. You pick.

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annerkey29: "Thanks for the spoiler warning in the title. I was looking to see who one of the actors was (no where near the message boards) and bam, there it is on the front page. Thanks a lot."

annerkey29, if you don't want spoilers, you might want to check out wikipedia instead of imdb.com (which has a discussion board - wikipedia does not). Here is the cast list according to wikipedia, it includes links to each actor listed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ox-Bow_Incident

Henry Fonda as Gil Carter
Dana Andrews as Donald Martin
Mary Beth Hughes as Rose Mapen / Rose Swanson
Anthony Quinn as Juan Martínez / Francisco Morez
William Eythe as Gerald Tetley
Harry Morgan as Art Croft (credited as Henry Morgan)
Jane Darwell as Jenny Grier
Matt Briggs as Judge Daniel Tyler
Harry Davenport as Arthur Davies
Frank Conroy as Maj. Tetley
Marc Lawrence as Jeff Farnley
Paul Hurst as Monty Smith
Victor Kilian as Darby
Chris-Pin Martin as Poncho
Willard Robertson as Sheriff
Leigh Whipper as Sparks
Margaret Hamilton as the house keeper
Billy Benedict as the young man
Dick Rich as Deputy Butch Mapes
George Meeker as Mr. Swanson

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Thanks for the spoiler warning in the title. I was looking to see who one of the actors was (no where near the message boards) and bam, there it is on the front page. Thanks a lot.

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............It would be nice to think Major Teiley's action resulted from guilt over deaths of the lynching deaths of three innocent men, but, like so many things in classic movies of the thirties threw fifties, the ending was dictated by the motion picture code people according to the "fun stuff" section of this site. The Hays offices insisted that Teiley should be punished for his actions. It was suggested that the character commit suicide. Despite being the result of bureaucratic censorship, rather the creativity, the ending does work.
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I think some prefer taking their own life rather than leave punishment to someone else. Gives them some measure of control. Reminds me of "Hang Em High" where the leader of the lynch mob hung himself rather than let Clint Eastwood's character kill him.

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Probably all of the above reasons but primarily it was a matter of honor like a samuari falling on his sword.

Even though this is a western that takes place in an earlier time it is really meant for the modern times it was filmed in. The biggest problem with the death penalty is that innocents will die and there is no turning back in that situation.

In the old west lynchings were common. Occasionally you hang the wrong man. I doubt if that was enough for suicide since it was so common. It's a modern statement against the death penalty.

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Tetley's suicide was NOT imposed by the Production Code Administration. It is in Clark's book. The two main reasons (there are many) were shame at his "weakling" son and shame at having killed three innocent men. He had to atone for the latter, and he would not suffer the ignominy of trial and execution by the law which he denied the three victims.

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................In the book Tetley shoots himself after his son, who he locked out of the house, hangs himself in the barn. Since this ending was considered too down beat and suicide itself, was too controversial for most movies of the time, the original script would have left all the character wallowing in their guilt at the end. As noted in the IMdB trivia section, The Hays office insisted Tetley suicide be depicted off camera of course.

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Yeah, in the book Tetley's suicide makes perfect sense, because when his son kills himself - finally ending Tetley's game of 'making a man' of him, and making it impossible for him to ever regain his respect or his love - it makes his whole fake world suddenly fall apart. In the film, by contrast, I think Tetley's suicide is a bit undermotivated.

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and to be honest with you, do not remember whether or not Tetley took his life or not in the book. He very well may have but I would not swear to it. However, you are correct about the Hays office. Criminals always had to pay for their sins one way or another.


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I agree with sebree and parkson on the reason. Also, this is more logical and realistic psychologically than the book in which the son kills himself first. The son has no reason to commit suicide, and if he did, the father wouldn't commit suicide, because it is the shame in front of the son he feared the most, and if the son was dead, he would just continue his arrogant rhetoric and self righteous explanations for his actions. The film ending actually made more sense than the book. Any one who studied Psychology would know this.

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Have you read the book? Gerald Tetley has ample reason to commit suicide: he was already on the edge before the whole lynching affair started, and on top of that he felt terrible guilt for having been unable to save the three men, and for being directly responsible for Martin's terrible, slow death. Major Tetley, meanwhile, had been using his abusive relationship with his son to evade all the suffering in his life: his grief at his wife's early death, at the defeat of his side in the Civil War, at the fact that his son really was a disappointment to him: all that pain was getting denied and passed on to Gerald in the form of endless punishment. When Gerald suddenly, finally withdrew from the game by committing suicide, Tetley lost what had become the whole point of his existence. He had no one left to punish except himself. He had much bigger problems than shame, which he was probably tough enough to face. I'd say that made perfect sense: and to claim that the author Walter Van Tilburg Clark, whose book has fascinated thousands and is one of the classics of American literature, knew less about psychology than 'any one who studied psychology', including, presumably, you, is just a bit arrogant.

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I did not intend to demean the author, Clark. I admit my post was misleading in that regard. I only meant to respond to the poster who thought Tetley's suicide was invalid. I was pointing out that Tetley's suicide, psychologically, was totally credible.

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It seems to me that the son, Gerald, made Major Tetley realize how horible of a person he had become. Gerald tells his father that he is a coward because in all good conscious he couldn't do what the others wanted him to do because the men should have been given a fair trial instead of the guilty until proven innocent idea. Gerald accuses his father of being a murderer for his own enjoyment. This added to the notion of his good name being slandered in trial could have pushed Major Tetley over the edge of his own reason. His own son saying that what he did was wrong and the whole town blaming him for the murders. He plays a very strong role as a demagog and makes everyone who watches this movie realize the power that groupthink has over so many by the actions of a few.

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Major Tetley wasn't anymore at fault than the men who stood next to him and voted to hang the men instead of doing a fair trial. His main reason for his suicide was probably the fact that he worked so hard for his son to take part in the lynching but Gerald refused and Tetley considered him cowardly and was embarrassed of him.

After the mob discovers that the real man who shot Larry Kinkaid has already been taken put in jail by the sheriff they all felt extremely terrible about what they'd done and Tetley felt even more guilty because he had been "in charge" of the whole thing.

He also looked like a complete brute because he was too prideful to wait for a fair trial, he just wanted to see those men dead and "justice taken care of." Tetley comes to realize that his son is a real man and made the right choice to not want to be involved in the lynching and is ashamed of the fact that he did and the guilt overrides everything else and he can't handle it, so therefore Tetley kills himself.

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You kind of answer your own question, I mean, it's probably a bit of a few of those things and also add to that, the pure shame, including the spite his own son held for him. The words of his son may've made him realise just how contemptible he is and that perhaps his one redeeming feature, his son, even he loathes him and his ways.

In Tetley's own twisted way, part of the reason he went on, let alone 'lead,' this whole venture, was 'for his son.' But given that even failed, the last remnants of respect from his son, lost, his reason for living, being, was shattered.

One can also presume - Just his behaviour with his son, the mum wasn't around, presumably she died, or left, and even just his wearing of the uniform for that venture - he still clearly had his own demons lingering from his war days. And he WAS a Major after all, so again, in war he was a leader of men, groups of men far larger than this. And he would've lead armies into many a battle (Well atleast some). Heck, maybe he lost a battle, maybe he lost alot of men? Maybe he had to hang people during the war - seems he's had experience doing so. Maybe he failed in the war and had hang ups over that - I mean, a former Major, to be about a dingy town like that? Where are the accolades? Where's his wife? You can tell the Major was a 'loser' from that war (In many ways I mean, psychologically, even if he was well decorated, and really, are there any 'winners' in war?) and I'm not sure entirely, but on immediate suspicion I thought his uniform was Confederate, but given the setting was Nebraska, a Northern state? then it must've been a Union one. In any case, it was clear that while he may've left the war, the war never left him.

Also, his trotting back up to his home, segregated from the community as they were prior to this, in their stately home (With servants), it would be somewhat clear Tetley would not have THAT many hang ups on what the loafers etc think. It would be as much a matter of his own pride, reason for being, shame etc... as much as fear of consequences.

Tetley's death in some ways could be seen as a kind of falling on his sword thing. He was certainly disgraced (On many levels, especially in his own mind - his own personal honour), and his son exposed his last semblance or pretence, of worth/justification. He was probably already in a dark place, and the fact he lost his son, his son's respect (Confirmed at the door), and that could've been the final nail, as it were - Nothing to live for after that.

Some have covered it and I suppose I touched on it too - Clearly he already had issues prior to this whole scenario anyway, including, or as a consequence, a dysfunctional relationship with his son. And the fact a former major thinks joining a lynch mob would 'make a man' out of his son who's clearly already a more sensitive chap, reading between the lines conveys Tetley has psychological scars from his war days, atleast - again maybe that's why the mother isn't in the picture? And that too in itself, no matter what manner of departure, could add to any family trauma for the son aswell as the father. Especially that era, divorce not common/socially accepted and if the mum suicided, then there certainly great shame with that too, especially those days and a man of honour like that.

Edit: One more thing, rationale - Relating to his son again, if Davies and co were the voice of reason for the mob, then the strongest possible voice of reason for he who had the power, who lead/controlled the mob and who so clearly was not swayed by Davies, was Tetley's very own Son. Tetley's son time and time again, if you guys recall, at near EVERY turn Tetley's son initially REFUSES his father - "No I won't do it!" Even at the start, when Tetley calls on his son to join him in the possie venture, Tetley's son doesn't want to. But Tetley's son eventually budges to his domineering father. But as the whole episode draws on and the deeper Tetley and the mob, sink, the further and stronger Tetley's son resists. At the very end, at the horse, Tetley's son refuses to whip the horse and his father pistol whips him for it. It was clear to Tetley right through, his son was not built, was morally against what was taking place, but yet Tetley pursued in-spite. Tetley ignored his son's own voice of reason, wishes, even ways and wisdom and in the end, his faint link with his son, was severed. If only Tetley was not so twisted by the trauma of his life, he may've relented and seen of his errors, but that was never going to happen as Tetley was already a broken man and even his son new, he couldn't fix (Or more fix himself, and his 'cowardly ways' for) his proud and hard to please, father - not even fix the scenario as in to kill his own father due to the uncontrollable monster Major Tetley had become - which the Son ofcourse expressed to Tetley himself, before he suicided.

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