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How Come No One Is Talking About This Movie


I have seen this movie probably about a hundred times and I still love. I read some of the reviews and some really made me mad. I don't know how anyone could hate this movie. This is probably one of the greatest Spencer Tracy movie. I'm not going to say it's the best cause I love many of his movies, but this is high on the list. I even like the Spielberg remake "Always". Which is something that is rarly said on any board for any remake. I only hope more people watch this movie and even the remake.

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I've looked at every user comment available on the A Guy named Joe page and don't really find much negative reaction to the film. A couple posters, more interested in blowing their own war-horns, ignore the film's fantasy on one hand and criticize it on the other. Well, this IS the internet! It was nice to see Tracy and Dunne paired once. He was great and she gave Dorinda Durston everything all the heroines of our war effort deserved and more. Ward Bond was wonderful here, too and Jimmy Gleason...not so much.

There was, too, I think, something in this film that must have been a comfort for the tens of thousands of women who lost the love of their life in the war and needed a comforting and sympathetic embrace from Hollywood. This was it.

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I thought that was a funny comment you made about Irene Dunne's character being better off with Van Johnson's younger character than with Tracy's. They were both younger than she was! She was just a great looking woman for her age (~45 at that time) - probably my favorite in the 1940's besides Betty Grable in "A Yank In the R.A.F." with Tyrone Power.

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I watched this movie and Air Force. Man oh man people in the 40's were horribly nicotine addicted. They were lighting up every second, blowing clouds of smoke everywhere. Geeeeeeezzzz.

I also found Spencer Tracy thoroughly unlikeable. He was far too angry. Angry about everything. Anger anger anger.

The ending? Very unplausible.

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Irene Dunne would have been 54 when she made this movie. She was born in 1989, and the movie was made in 1943. Van Johnson would have been 27, Spencer was 43. She looks great IMO for a woman of 54. Spence and Van always looked great, regardless of their age.

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Irene Dunne was around 45 years old (NOT 54!)(born at the end of 1898)

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You know, you'd be angry too if first, you get killed and then second, some new guy tries to steal your girl and you have to be there to witness it! Tracy had a great part with a great script and played it perfectly, as he always did. As for the ending, well it was a fantasy after all. No comment on the cigs except that they weren't the same as they are these days and smoking was much more popular and acceptable in that era.

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I still can't figure out a few things:

1. What was Tracy doing alone in a B-25 medium bomber that required a crew of eight?

2. Where did the German aircraft carrier come from? Neither they nor the Italians had any during WWII.

3. Qualified as she may have been, I still can't believe Dorinda would have been able to take off alone in a P-38 without being chased by any American pilots. Also, wouldn't she have been arrested by MPs the minute she got out of the plane?

I know the picture was propagandistic, but for pete's sake, there was a world war on. Do you really believe anyone would have wanted to see a "fair" picture giving equal time to the Axis side back then? If anything, today we have gone too much the other way and are prejudiced against our own side. I have seen WWII German propaganda films and Soviet Cold War propaganda films. They make our most jingoistic movies look downright evenhanded.

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I was just watching this again and have answers to at least two of the questions. First, the rest of the crew bailed out when the P-51s painted up to look like BF-109s shot down Tracy's 25.
Second, I questioned the German flattop thing myself, but there were two of them, one was called the Neuschwabenland but spent most of the war ferrying stuff around Argentina, I guess the one in the movie was the "other" German flyboat.
As for number 3, well, I'm with you on that one.

Lastly, I'm also with you on the propaganda aspect, we were the good guys back then, and as far as I'm concerned still are.

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........Actually the Germans did succeed in building one large aircraft carrier, the Graf Zeppelin, not to be confused with the nineteen thirties airship of the same name. It would have carried Stuka dive bombers and ME 109 fighters and used a steam catapult launching system like that used on U.S., British and Japanese carriers. It would was at least as large as the ship in the movie........The German navy also mounted a flight deck and catapult on a freighter research landing and take off techniques, but its lack of a hanger deck and it inability to handle more then one plane at a time made it unsuitable for operational use...........Early in the war the Germans sent some pilots to Japan to study carrier operations. With the entry of the United States into the war the Japanese navy had its own priorities and Germans could not easily send personal to Japan. The program was ended........Fortunately for the allies the different branches of the German military were not very good at thinking out of the box or working together. The navy and the air force couldn't work procedural maters out. The Graf Zeppelin was launched, towed to another ship yard to be fitted out, but it never went out to sea..........Toward the end of the war the Nazis ordered the ship scuttled to keep it out of Soviet hands. After the war the Soviets raised the carrier, but in a move that defies logic, they towed it out into Baltic and sunk it. The Soviet Union did not have any aircraft carries of its own till the nineteen eighties............Of course the military intelligence, much less a Hollywood screen writer, didn't have information on all this. Tracey's character was supposed to go out in a blaze of glory and the idea of one man taking out a German carrier would have appealed to wartime audiences even though a pocket battleship would have been more historically accurate..........As for the ending of course this is a movie. If a female pilot had taken the conrols of a P-38 and successful bombed an enmy amonition dump it would have become part of military history. The public information people would have surpressed details like she took the plane so the man she was in love with would go on the mission, but story would have become part of the war effort if it had really happened.
I'm not Spartacus. The dude over there in the sandals who looks like Kirk Douglas is.

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You are of course correct. What I should have said was that neither the Germans nor the Italians had any "active" aircraft carriers in service during WWII. The KMS Graf Zeppelin was never more than 80% completed.

I don't take the movie seriously. I'd have to believe in ghosts to do that.

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I'll accept your explanation about the rest of the crew, even though we never saw them. The producers were probably too cheap to hire more actors.

I know about the so-called German aircraft carriers but the Neuschwabenland was more a tender than a carrier. The "other one," the KMS Graf Zeppelin, was never even completed. Construction was halted in 1943 and the ship was docked in the harbor at Stettin and used as a floating warehouse for U-boat parts for the rest of the war.

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Thanks for restoring the name Graf Zeppelin to my memory! I'd forgotten that completely, must be getting old!!

Good point about the production being too cheap to show the whole crew, when the movie was on last night I noticed the co-pilot and the radioman and that was about it!

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If you were paying attention you would've heard Tracey radio that his crew was ordered off and he gave a guesstamit as to where...as far as your other concerns-this was the age of entertaining with a good ending-just sit back and relax enjoy your self dont think too much

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The cigarette companies had a real racket going. They sent cigarettes free to the troops, as well as advertising them as actually GOOD for your health, and of course good for your social life because they showed how modern you were. My father remembered when cigarettes were given out free in small towns and even to kids. I hope we will never see legalized pushing of addictive drugs again, but alas, it may come to that.

I was thinking when watching this about the actress, can't recall who it was, who learned to smoke for a part and got addicted.

Lest people believe we didn't know cigarettes were bad for you back then, I will say that it was always known to "stunt your growth" and people who were not so "modern" thought it was an evil weed. There was no secret that Pres. Grant died of throat cancer because of all his cigar smoking, although by the time Pres. Coolidge died the tobacco industry was powerful and it wasn't said that HE died of throat cancer because of all HIS cigar smoking although his symptoms were obvious and his habit of chain smoking was as legendary as his habit of trying to get everyone around him to smoke cigars, too! But what do people care about tomorrow in the middle of a war? People said that any sedative they could get was a help in such a stressful time and who knew what tomorrow would bring so what's the point of worrying about it? And hey, if cigarettes are free to the military, and civilians suddenly have a lot more money than they had during the Depression, why not? Live for today.

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This is one of my favorite movies. I loved it since I was a kid. I have always liked the angels/heros who come back down to earth movies (Carousel, Heaven Can Wait, Here Comes Mr. Jordan). I thought Spencer Tracy and Irene Dunne were great together and I like his character's sarcasm (I don't see it as anger). I read it was always one of Spielberg's favorites - that's why he made a remake. I just wish he would have made it in the same era--because some of the plot points were WWII era things - the dress, etc.

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is this film anything like the british film A Matter of Life and Death (Michael Powell/Emeric Pressburger 1946)? in america it is called stairway to heaven.

I've been reading something that compares the two closely.

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YOU MUST BE SOME STUPID AASS FROM SOME FOREIGN LAND...NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT IT CAUSE IT'S ABOUT 100 YEARS OLD DUPHUS. BY THE WAY, I LOVE THESE OLDIES ALSO.

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It's old, it doesn't show up much at all on regular TV or cable, people don't get to experience or re-experience it.

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