it is NOT in the top 250?r u kidding me? - Fantasia (1941) Discussion

[–] jmbwithcats 17 years ago

I recommend watching The Making of Fantasia, it's truly remarkable and explains why the movie was basically destined to not make money at the box office, and since the movie could not stand the public, the movie was cut from 124 minutes to 81 minutes, sadly.

Fantasia was ahead of it's time by a century at least. We still aren't ready for what Disney envisioned for Fantasia.

Truly one of the greatest films of all time, and a vision so profound it inspires as much as it does invigorate and entertain.

Fantasia was an artistic success but a financial failure, and Walt Disney never really got over it in his lifetime.

Fantasia wasn't really understood for the masterpiece that it is for many years after it was first made.

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[–] Blackjack254 17 years ago

how the hell did they cut 40 minutes from the film?? no wonder it failed.
cutting tocatta and fugue and the deems taylor narrations would only account for 15-18 minutes at most.

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[–] jmbwithcats 17 years ago

Yeah it really is a shame. Who knows where this would have springboarded the arts if it had been successful. Of course it was bad timing, with WW II, and everything else going on.

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[–] Smartie_pants 17 years ago

I think this movie is amazing. My parents bought this for me when it was re-released in the early 90's and I have been in love with it ever since. I can understand why this movie isn't for everyone though.. My parents thought it was a waste of money but I still have the vhs and watch every now and then.

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[–] Hyperboievr 17 years ago

I say we get it in the Top 250.

Even if it failed at the box office, it doesn't matter, because everyone knows, deep down inside that its one of the greatest masterpieces ever made in film. It deserves to be recognized as a turning point of all animated films. the way the animations moved to the music was so unique, nothing will ever move like it in all of animation. I grew up with the Rite of Spring sequence, and I never will let this film go out of my heart.

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[–] benhww 17 years ago

I agree with you that it should be in the top 250, in the top 100 for that matter. Its a massive achievment in not just animation cinema, but in cinema all together!!

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[–] Shearer_Goddard_Russell 17 years ago

So...this may be suicide on a Fantasia board, but I feel it just has to be said. I think the animation in this film is incredible. So many times I was just amazed at what I was seeing, particularly since this is an old film- Disney really was a visionary and Fantasia is intense stuff. However, there is no kind way to put this: it's boring. Beautiful in some parts, but boring. That may be because one is accustomed to seeing characters in Disney movies that one can get attached to. There aren't really any actual characters in Fantasia until the greek segment- but even that kind of went on too long. Or wait, Rite of Spring was before that and I did really love that segment. I really did like it from Rite of Spring and up (really, whoever thought up having an African-animal tribute to The Dance of the Hours was brilliant). But that was an hour and a half into the movie. Maybe if they'd put those more interesting segments first I might have liked the movie more...but I dunno.

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[–] tobisteiner62 14 years ago

I think you raise a couple of interesting points, Shearer. For example--believe it or not--I never thought of the menagerie in Dance of the Hours as being an "African Animal tribute". As many times as I've watched this film, that never occurred to me.

However, your opinion that Fantasia is boring is just that: an opinion. As I already stated, I've seen it many times (well over a dozen), and I have never found it boring. I also don't agree with your statement that there are no "actual characters that one can get attached to". Even if one passes over little cuties like Hop Lo (the out-of-step mushroom in the Chinese Dance from the Nutcracker), what about Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice? The audience doesn't even have to work to develop an attachment to a character so iconic and well-loved as ol' Mick!

Anyway, I too would love to see Fantasia in the Top 250. How does one work toward that, other than by voting it a "10"?

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