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What was Walt Disney thinking


This is the most boring film that he had ever made, and plus the fact the fact it runs way too long. He had a very uninteresting narrator, the opening of the movie was boring. The characters almost all not interesting. The only ones that was intresting was Mickey and the Sorceror. And he pretty much saved the movie, but other then I don't know why it has gotten any good reviews. My thumb is way way way down, if Mr. Disney was trying to bore kids and adults he had successed.

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I think you missed the point of the movie. You seem to be approaching the film through an "I'm a whiny little kid and I want a bunch of colorful and talkative and stereotypical characters to JUMP OUT AND GRAB MY ATTENTION!!!!" lens.

That's not what this film is. Yes, there are "characters" (and they have more depth and personality in some sequences than in others) but the purpose of this film was to take an adventure into the idea of producing animation inspired by classical music to accompany said music. The point is the artistry and creativity in the animation, and the way it accompanies the music.

Disney quite clearly did not bore everyone with this masterpiece, as it has a 7.9 average rating, and about 25% of raters, including myself, give it the highest score possible. You sir, are an ass.

Mr. Daniel?
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You are wrong sir, about somethign you are wrong to make fun of me, you had the choice to ignore this message, but you are too stupid to have figured this out, you made of me, so now I am going to make fun of you. I'm, stupid, I am going to get on IMDB and I am going to look at all the message boards, and I am going to make fun of somebody. I am so stupid I am going to do this, without thinking. You do not know me, and I don't know you, and by the look of this post I don't want to know or even meet you.

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Yes, you are stupid.

If you post, you give the right to any and everyone to comment on your post.

Bye!

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You are are stupid for answeing and agrereing. If you don't like what I said, I hAve the right to my opinion, don't ever read one of my posts. Ignore my posts, anywhere you see my screen name don't look at the post. Let's all get a long, if you can't ignore my posts by yourself, then click on my screen name, you will see this Ignore postings from and it will have my screen name, click it and it will ignore any post that is wrritten by me. And cdhanger-1 the same goes for you. To the same thing, and everything will go on as normal. I am not the type of person you want bto get mad, because I can get mad, and you won't to run into me when I am mad. When I get down with both of your posts I am going to do exactly what I said, and this will be better because if IMDB moderators has to get involved, somebody can get banned.

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You are wrong sir, about somethign you are wrong to make fun of me


On the contrary, I'm quite correct to make fun of you, because you are making a fool of yourself on a message board populated mostly by people with a deep appreciation for fine art.

you had the choice to ignore this message, but you are too stupid to have figured this out


Actually, I wasn't too stupid to see the option of ignoring you. That potential course of action was entirely clear to me. But I opted for this instead, because your foolish ignorance invited some good old-fashioned insults.

you made of me, so now I am going to make fun of you. I'm, stupid, I am going to get on IMDB and I am going to look at all the message boards, and I am going to make fun of somebody. I am so stupid I am going to do this, without thinking.


By Jove, what a great retaliation. I would point out one critical flaw in your mockery of me: I /did/, actually, put quite a bit of thought into my post. Much more than you put into your original one. Also, I'm not stupid. But I do get on the IMDB message boards, and I do make fun of people, especially people that invite it upon themselves. So I'd say your mockery of me is about 50% accurate; a valiant effort to say the least.

You do not know me, and I don't know you, and by the look of this post I don't want to know or even meet you.


The feeling is mutual :)

Mr. Daniel?
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Yes you are wrong, and your right, the right is to have to have your own opinon, and i have the right to mine. BUt if you start making fun of me, is not what I am going to tolerate. Read my post to know who I am asume should be you best friend, both put me on your ignore list, you will not have to see any of my posts, you felt the need to mock me, guess what then I can mock you back. If you had ignored the message in the first place, I would never have heard of you, and we will never had this problem. I am now offering the best way to solve this problem, both you too add me to your ignore list, and I will add you, and none of us can see posts on any boards. I have the right to go on any board I want to, inless IMDB takes that right away from me, and that would be to ban me from the boards. And I don't want that, I want to be able use these boards, when I want and speak my own opinion about stuff movies tv shows, I am not asking people to agree with me. Or disagree with me, but I am asking people if they don't like what I said in a post, to leave it and alone, and not make fun of me, the boards are a lot better if there are no fights happen, where an incident like this gets reported to the moderators, and they delete posts, and in serious real cases even ban a person without even nofitication. When I get done with this post, I am going to add you both to my ignore list. You can do it if you want to, I don't want to me either one of you, I don't want to friends with either one of you. What i do want is to drop this competely, forgot about you, do what I said I won't see either one of your posts, in less I remove you both, and I have no need to do it, I want to get back on without my life, and forget about you both. I am done talking to both of you, neither one is worth having a friendship with, both feel free to comes frinds with each other. And leave me alone to the point I forget about you both, and even why I had to ignore your posts in the first place.

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Y u mad though?

Mr. Daniel?
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Nobodymourns:

You found it boring? My three year old finds it captivating and has watched it several times. If a three year old has the patience I would hope you would too.

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Nobodymourns didn't care for this movie. He found it boring. That doesn't make him stupid, it just makes him somebody with different tastes.

On the other hand, he also came on the board for a film beloved by multitudes, and trashed it. He seems surprised and offended that anybody would call him on this. That is kind of stupid.

He says that he has a right to his opinion, and of course he does. I don't see anybody claiming that he does not. But of course, all the rest of us also have the right to our opinions, and the general opinion around here seems to be that Nobodymourns ain't too bright. I concur, not because of his dislike for Fantasia, but because of his behavior in this very thread.

For the record, I enjoyed Fantasia and have made a point of showing it to my nephew, whose favorite parts are the dinosaurs and the "shy fish."



I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure you're not Hitler.
- Jon Stewart

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Eveyone does have the right to an opinion, and to disagree with the opinions of others. What is wrong, is to call someone stupid, just because you don't like that person's opinion.

This film is very different and does not appeal to everyone. In fact, I would make a guess that it doesn't appeal to the majority of people given the infrequency at which it is available.

I remember watching it as a child, and enjoying it. We showed it to our children tonight, (Christmas present) and they enjoyed it. I did not enjoy it tonight like I did as a child. I watched with my girls and enjoyed the fact that they enjoyed it. We spoke about the meaning behind various scenes. My six year old made some very interesting observations, so the movie spawned learning oportunties, which is a great thing for any movie to do. But since I didn't personally enjoy the movie tonight, maybe that means I don't enjoy "fine art" as one of you put it, or maybe it just means I don't like this picture any more.

What has happened in this thread is the single biggest problem with IMDB: instead of having meaningful and intelligent discussions about the pros and cons of films, you attack each other. xenophile2002: your Daily Show quote demonstrates that you would agree with this point of view. Come on folks, grow up, stop attacking each other and discuss films.

The first post in this thread attempted to describe why the author didn't like the film. Agree or disagree, discuss/attack the points, not the person.

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This film is very different and does not appeal to everyone. In fact, I would make a guess that it doesn't appeal to the majority of people given the infrequency at which it is available.
Except that's the Disney corporate strategy. Almost all their animated films (or at least their classic ones) do this. Most of their films are unavailable for purchase for years until they go into the "Disney vault" (as they describe it) to sell them again to a new generation. Essentially they're keeping the old theatrical re-release model instead of the model that virtually every other company has adopted.

I'm not sure how this most recent release has been advertised, but Fantasia was usually sold with a tag-line along the lines of "For the last time ever..." I believe that's how the VHS was sold back in 1990 and I certainly remember them doing that with the first DVD release in 2000.

"You've shown your quality sir. The very highest."

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Fantasia really appeals to imaginative people, which is why kids can sit through it multiple times and some adults can't.

The lack of storytelling and dialogue allows the viewer to fill in the gaps with their own thoughts. Watching Fantasia is almost a meditative experience, like watching someone's dream unfold before your eyes. That's the appeal to creative or imaginative-minded people, who are naturally already drawn to art and music anyway.

If you're a more grounded type of thinker, I can see why you wouldn't like it. It's not a typical movie in the sense that it doesn't tell an organized story. You could watch Fantasia backwards and get as much out of it as you did forwards.

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Well, yeah, I didn't think he was stupid just because he disliked the movie. In fact, I could perfectly understand plenty of people, including intelligent ones, finding this movie to be not quite their cup of tea. What I thought was stupid was his reasoning for not liking it.

"This is the most boring film that he had ever made, and plus the fact the fact it runs way too long."

It runs about 2 hours, which is a normal movie length.

"The characters almost all not interesting."

Like I said, "interesting characters" weren't /supposed/ to fill the movie to the brim. It would be like if I said, "I hate The Silence of the Lambs...what a terrible movie because there weren't enough jokes, I didn't laugh even once."

Besides that, Nobodymourns should learn how to English.

That's so cute what your nephew says, the "shy fish." :3

Mr. Daniel?
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Yeah, I liked that. Of course, that was seventeen years ago, but oh well. He's still looking forward to John Carter of Mars.



I disagree with you, but I'm pretty sure you're not Hitler.
- Jon Stewart

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Smart analisys. It appears that NobodyMourns has left. Raise my champagne glass for that!

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It was made in a time that Disney still tried to push the boundaries, instead of these days, when it just panders to the lowest common denominator, and follows the advice of execs. "our last 2d animation bombed at the boxoffice, that must mean the public no longer wants 2d animation"
No! it means your last 2d flick was crap!!

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Okay I know it not even 5 years after your post, I have to admit I have not seen the film since I made the post, but I bet I still find it boring. I find it funny that your then 3 year old would be entertained by a movie that runs 2 hours long, I would think would get bored by it. But you why that must be it is a children's movie, and maybe somehow I must have missed it as a child or don't remember watching it as a child. But answer me this question does your child still like this movie now. I am not saying I hate Disney animated movies in genral, through a lot of them are way better this movie.

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Eh, fair enough. I'm going to go with "stupid," though.

People who go onto boards and then can only comment, "I hated this!" are simply asking for it. So, for stumbling into that, yeah, your intelligence has been called into question.

There are lots of other Disney movies for you...

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I have to agree with the original poster, this was way too long, the narrator was awful, and the only good part (Sorcerer's Apprentice) was over before the halfway point. They should have made it like the Sorcerer's story all the way through, what I mean is, they could have used more Disney characters and more full animation.

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