"he...he does things for me." ygor
watch the movie from the perspective that both are lovers. i don't think anyone can disagree that it's a possibility, from the dialogue, the way Ygor touches Frankenstein and protects him, and the way the monster goes bezerk and cries after Ygor dies.
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On the contrary, I always thought there was a pretty strong homoerotic subtext between Igor and the Creature in this film. It isn't explicit, 'cause there's no way they could get that by the code, but it's implied. That doesn't mean they were lovers, but there definitely seem to be some pretty strong feelings there.
Death is...whimsical today.
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Hmmm...never heard of "gay logic." As far as I know, there's just logic (and being crazy doesn't stop folks from using it).
I don't think the two of them were lovers. But the relationship between them does seem erotically charged to me. It has nothing to do with logic, 'cause there's not enough information available to construct rational arguments. It's just a feeling I get while watching them together.
Death is...whimsical today.
i wonder if the monster was any good in bed
shareYou'd know the answer to that if you'd seen Young Frankenstein :D
shareI think there's also a strong homoerotic subtext between Wolf and Inspector Krogh, and between Peter and his imaginary elephant.
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(Seinfeld: Not that's there's anything wrong with that)
Actually, alot DID get by the Hays Office.
James Whale filled the 1st two entries with sexual subtext;
and they were deliberate because of his sense of wit/humor.
Much has been written about it.
Examples: In Frankenstein
1) The Watch Tower was erected to look like a 'blank'
with the clouds and storm representing the womb;
...hence; the Monster's Birth.
2) Just prior to the Monster's birth;
Henry is interupted at the watch tower by Elizabeth, his father and Victor.
His reaction:
"Of all times NOW"...like a guilty lover who has been rudely intruded upon.
3) In the prior scene, when Henry's father suspects it may be another woman; Henry's absense is because of another MAN (the Monster).
Bride Of Frank...
Does anyone really need to argue the Pretorius character?
Son of...Lee was just replicating the sly humor begun by Whales.
The beauty of these films are that the sexual undertone goes right over most people' heads;
especially the children (& rightfully so).
After 'SON', the concept for 'Ghost' wasn't exactly abandoned;
...but became wider open for conjecture.
With 'F Meets W'; it got dusted, permanently!
Wow, I really never would have thought of the film in that context. I thought it was pretty clear by do things for him it was meant Frankenstein's monster killed people who got on Igor's bad side. But then you have two lonely disfigured guys living alone in a castle and one with the mind of a child you can't rule out Igor might have taken advantage of the monster in more ways than one!
shareYes. Frankenstein is the one of the first gay characters in a major Hollywood film. James Whale, who was gay himself, was quite clever in his direction of Frankenstein & Bride of Frankenstein to keep the gay theme (Frankenstein & the blind man) quite coded. The Frankenstein "monster" is the perfect analogy for the plight of the homosexual in that day. Whale did state that this was intentional (to get by censors & studio bosses) and not mere coincidence. What is interesting is that the theme continued on in Son of Frankenstein, which is not directed by Whale (don't know if Lee is gay or not).
shareThe US 1930s horrors are rife with implications of homosexuality. It is a trait usually, though not exclusively, associated with the monster/villain character. Murder Legendre (Bela Lugosi) in White Zombie, and Countess Zaleska (and her mean-queen man-servant, Sandor) in Dracula’s Daughter are the most explicit examples.
shareThe "things" that Ygor was referring to were the murders that the monster commited for Ygor's revenge upon the jury that had him hanged.
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He would have an enormous schwanzstucker.
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