Is this movie still relevant?


How would we show this movie to a room full of teenagers and still make it relevant? After all, their parents probably weren't alive when this movie was made. Would they get it?



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Oh they probably would...I'd say it's VERY relevant today. All you have to do is listen to the characters talk, how about when Alice talks about how Grandpa goes on about people being run by fear?

Fear of what they eat and what they drink, fear their jobs, their future, their health, they're scared to save money and scared to spend it. Can that describe the world today ANY BETTER?

And how about when Martin goes on about if all Kirby's plans fell through, it could be the best thing to happen to him, make him stop worrying about making more money than he'll ever spend, because after all, you can't take it with you, so what good is it? That's the message people need to get through their minds now.

I'd say this film is HIGHLY relevent today, more than ever before. They need to get this movie in every library and video store around so people can see it.

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Oh, it would be relevant. The ultimate message will always be relevant. It would do a room full of teenagers good, rather than their normal sex comedies and mindless action films.

"I know you're in there, Fagerstrom!"-Conan O'Brien

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Indeed, more teenagers are smarter and pay closer attention than people give them credit for, it's just that nobody's willing to try so they don't bother bringing in the old and the good, just the here and now to make a quick buck. But I think they would very well appreciate a movie such as this if they were given a good chance to see it.

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I'm a teenager, 17, and I absolutely think it's relevant. Of course there's some of us who just don't bother listening to the characters and they only want to see sex and something blown up, but I think if a room full of teens was shown this they'd love it. It's one of my favorites, along with "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" and "Only Angels Have Wings."

<--- Jean Arthur fan

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Like I said, it's VERY relevant, especially when you consider that they knew things then, 70 years ago, that people have yet to learn today but they need to.

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I first saw it as a teenager. Thought it great then and still do at 65!

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My little kid liked it more than I did. There are some themes that are not only universal they are timeless.

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It's relevant in message but completley ineffective in its delivery. It's a tired, dated, overrated snore.

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Ah go blow it out your tubenburbles. If people are always going to want to see the movie of the damn civil war and big fire that burnt down Georgia, you can't say THIS movie is dated.

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How would we show this movie to a room full of teenagers and still make it relevant? After all, their parents probably weren't alive when this movie was made. Would they get it?

It's about big corporate money trying to run over "the little guy" who is just trying to live his life.

What's not to get?

It's not like that has stopped happening. If anything, the basic issues and questions have only increased in relevence to most people's lives.


Now, some teens may well roll their eyes at some of the 1930s slang / lingo. There's no way avoid that. But as far as being able to "get" the movie, I see no problem.

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And let's face it, that whole part with Jean Arthur going on about what people are afraid of, that's today's situation perfectly. They're afraid of what they eat, what they drink, they fear their job, their future, their health, they're scared to save money and scared to spend it. That's us alright. Not much changes in 70 years.

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I'm sixteen and I understood it perfectly, I love James Stewart. I wish some adults in my life would watch it and "get it". Someone said that most teenagers do actually understand material like this but it's just that no one ever thinks we will so no one tries. I don't think it's fair to have a stereotype of what a teenager is, more people my age would probably be more into messages like this if that stereotype was lifted even a little bit.

There's this episode of My So Called Life(Ep. 9 - Halloween) where the English teacher tells Angela to relay the message to Jordan that if he doesn't come to class she'll have him thrown out of school and then she says,

"There's just too many good kids, I don't have time for the bad ones."

Then when Angela tells Jordan he says she's just looking for a reason to kick him out. Maybe if the English teacher had built him up, instead of tearing him down, she'd have gotten better results.

Just because we're young doesn't mean we're incapable. =]

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I think the themes dealt with in this story are just timeless...they'll always be relevant. Even the humor in this film is still funny! Every time I watch this movie, it just makes me feel good, and the same goes for all of Capra's works. His films are timeless, and it's a shame that the black and white, 1938 thing puts a lot of people off, because there really aren't movies like this being made anymore.

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Indeed. I think this is the best movie Frank Capra ever made...and I also think it's the best play George Kaufman and Moss Hart ever wrote. Let's face it, movies today exploit the fact that people are still afraid of what they eat, they drink, fear their job, their future, their health, scared to save money and scared to spend it, but they don't do much to give us a cinematic family that has found a way out of that rat race, always worrying about the almighty dollar over pursuing their true pleasures.

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I'm a teen and I loved it. Of course it depends on the group, but I agree with whoever said that teens are dumbed down too much. They are very malleable and if presented with good, thought-provoking, artful and entertaining movies such as this I think they would love them. But I may be biased as I absolutely adore old movies. Most new ones are all about sex and explosions (not to say that some good ones aren't made--Bella, for instance. But that is the only one I can think of!). We need more films like this today.

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Good for you, Justaud! And the other teens who responded, too, every one of you refreshingly refraining from bleeps and vulgarities. I hope there are a lot more of your brand waiting to be shiped from the warehouse. I won't be around all that much longer, and I would like to think our diseased society will somehow get better some day.

He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45

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Aww, thank you! I remain hopeful that we are just beginning an upward curve. I know there is a lot of good happening in the world...despite the media's best attempts to keep it from us.

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I have a few questions for you Justaudrey and the other teens who responded on this thread. I am putting it as a reply to yours because yours is the most recent, but I hope any other teens who have responded positively to this movie and like other oldies will respond. Here it is:

Question # 1: do you prefer the company of older people to that of your own generation? I always did when I was a kid in the '50's and '60's to the point that people said I was "born 40 years old."

Question # 2 are you being raised primarily by one or more of your grandparents?

Question #3: Were you or are you being educated in public school, or at a Church-run school, or home-schooled.

I know these are long, complex, and nosey questions, so I will make it even longer and tell below why I want to know.

I am an old man without grandchildren who had not watched TV, much less been to the movie house, for over ten years. But I always loved movies (have liked few made since'70), and I missed them. But recently the lure of the wide-screen TV, being able to see wide-screen movies as they were made, and the DVDs with perfectly restored pictures overcame my resistance. My widescreen TV is not hooked to any cable or other net, but I have bought over 300 DVDs and still buying (mostly old black and whites).

I also about six months ago finally broke down and bought a computer after three decades of denouncing them as the work of the Devil. This mainly so I could exchange emails with my cousin whom I love dearly but who lives far away. Like most people new to computers, as soon as I learned to navigate, I found the web site for me, IMDb. While having the fun of learing more about my favorite old movies than I ever thought possible, I was delighted to find that there are young people out there who actually seem like real human beings istead of the blank-eyed, green-haired, multiply-ring- pierced subspecies I see walking around WalMart. This is swell news, or as you guys would say, "awesome!"

He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45

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1: I do generally feel more comfortable with adults or kids, rather than people my own age. I really enjoy talking with older people, because I feel I have a lot to learn from them...and I just enjoy their stories about the past--which I am so enamored with.

2: I was not raised by my grandparents, but family is very important and mine is quite large (9 kids, over 40 cousins just on one side).

3: I was primarily homeschooled but am now in college.

I don't mind answering these, and I really enjoyed your story. Thanks for sharing! :)

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Excellent comment; thank you for sharing your insight.

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Well I'm 20 but I'd like to give my two cents:

1. Prefer? That's hard to say...I think I get along best with people my own age, and older. As a child I got along quite well with a lot of older people...I didn't care so much for people in their 30s and 40s, but people in their 60s, 70s, 80s...I could talk to them...I don't know, looking back now I guess as a child there's just something trustworthy about people with wrinkles.

2. Nope, I've always been raised by my parents.

3. I was homeschooled. What's funny is that my great aunt who was a public school teacher, who I loved visiting with and watching movies with and talking to, would come and stay with us for a while and she used to tell my mother that my brother and I, were THE most well behaved children she had ever seen.

On a side note, I'd like to comment I think it's funny...people always complain about homeschooled kids turning out anti-social, not knowing how to interact with other people, especially those their own ages. I beg to differ, from my own experience, the difference is we were brought up knowing how to interact with people of all ages, not only our own, so we don't think of old people as a bore or an inconvenience, we know we can learn from them and they usually have the most amusing stories to tell. Whereas at the same time, I see plenty of public schooled kids who seldom even talk to people their own ages, and even less to anyone of another age group.

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Thanks to Justaudrey and Novastar for your replies.

As to homeschooled kids being anti-social (not learning how to socialize is the way I usally hear it), I guess that means they haven't learned how to cuss, smoke cigarettes, drink whiskey, use dope, be promiscuous and the like social skills kids learn at public school.

I've heard the complaint that homeschooled kids seem like "little adults". Terrific! Turning raw little savages into civilized adults used to be the goal of childrearing.

P.S It's nice to hear that wrinkles make one look "trustworthy". I thought they just made me look old!

He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45

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What a unfounded bias you have, but then again, considering your sig, I shouldn't be surprised that such crass generalizations about today's youth are coming from a home-schooled Christian. You seem like a swell old movie fan, I'll give you that, but you're WAY off base about "today's kids". you are apparently only capable of seeing the "bad" ones (in your eyes, of course) and assuming that the rest are just the same.

As for the movies, this whole "they just don't make 'em like that anymore" notion requires a fair amount of ignorance about the broad spectrum of motion pictures available to us today, from the U.S. and around the world (and, as a collector of "old black and whites" myself, I'm NOT discriminating against classic cinema). You, of all people, with NO cable to hobble your journey, should be opening your eyes to ALL the movies that are made throughout the year and throughout the world. There's SO much you're missing, and I only fear you won't have enough time left on this earth to experience it all, having so callously brushed off computers and, one presumes, television and movie theaters based largely on ignorant assumptions about the content available on them. "The work of the Devil"?! Seriously? All those years not even knowing, not learning the truth about the technology, falling behind, regressing as far as entertainment was concerned, because of a typically Christian absolutist attitude. That's maddening. Thank goodness for your cousin living so far away! Why DO so many religious people, regardless of sect, have to learn everything so friggin' late, after years of repression of natural human instincts. My cinema lover's heart cries for all the thought-provoking stories you've missed and may never see. :(

The "moral" of YCTIWY was NOTHING NEW when it came out. People are generally conservative (yes, even most liberals) in various areas of their lives, and especially as they age, purchase property, raise children, so it wasn't like Capra (or Kaufman and Hart) suddenly noticed all these new-fangled fears and felt the wayward public needed a good little lesson in how to be happy having nothing rather than getting ahead and improving your lot in life. Such fears and insecurities go back centuries.

And all this crap in this thread about "the movies of today" just not dealing with these kinds of issues, and young audiences craving sex and violence above all, well, what B.S. when you look at the LARGER PICTURE, which is decidedly NOT being done thanks to all the rose-colored glasses being worn by contributors here! Audiences of ALL ages will crave sex, violence, explosions and the wonderful CATHARSIS that goes along with enjoying such things we may not enjoy or experience in our real lifes -- that's what the movies are THERE FOR -- but there are plenty of films released every year that get at deeper issues than the average Hollywood summer blockbuster, which isn't even designed to.

And I resolutely believe that many teenagers of today, whether they even know if or not, and thanks to the very computers you so desperately avoided for a DECADE because of an entirely unfounded and irrational religion-based fear (you MUST admit this), do view these films, or are at least completely capable of doing so, be they domestic or foreign cinema, arthouse fare, indie dramas, and via various media -- cinemas, cable, streaming, illegal downloads (sadly) and what have you. Granted, they may not watch them in the kinds of numbers that go to big special-effects filled fantasies, but it doesn't mean that no one is watching the alternatves. Whether they RETAIN these oceans of web-based information available to them as they get older is another story. Studies today (such as the recent book THE SHALLOWS, look it up) suggest that they won't, because they're of a generation that's used to knowing that ALL information will simply "be there" whenever they want it, so it won't need to reside in their heads.

And as to the world worrying about money instead of enjoying their lives, well, this is one of the most insidious modern philosophies out there, the whole notion that money -- and having or EARNING lots of it -- somehow robs people of their ability to enjoy friends, family and the life around them. WRONG. Money DOES buy happiness. Popular literature, and movies like YCTIWY (made by people who got paid LOTS of money, buy the way) would have the masses believe that it's better to accept one's lowly station in life, dancing around the living room with friends and family and not having two nickels to rub together than actually having millions and REALLY enjoying ALL that the world has to offer. Granted, you and me and most of the developed world are not going to become millionaires, but the point is that, DESPITE all the wonderful stuff we can do for free (with or without loved ones and friends), there are likewise a lot of wonderful things in this life DO cost money and should under every available circumstance be considered worth striving to afford, be it something as simple as a fancy dinner for two in a restaurant you might never visit again, or a flashy sports car to complement the collection of fifty you've already got parked in your garage. You can't take the money with you, so you might as well enjoy the hell out of it while you're here, especially if you've EARNED it with honesty, elbow grease and the best of intentions. I'll never be a millionaire, and I love my family more than anything in this world, and my friends almost as much, BUT I also love doing and seeing and experiencing the things my MONEY will allow me to, and often wish I only earned MORE so I could sample even MORE of the world's wonder in the next 30 or 40 years before my lights go dim.

Of course, some people might be happy bouncing around harmonicas and xylophones in their living rooms while their "lovably kooky" clans. Me, I want to explore what's OUTSIDE my front door.

By the way, your suggestion that kids pick up cussing, smoking cigarettes, drinking whiskey, using dope and being promiscuous at public schools shows your remarkably narrow experience with the contemporary world and the young people within it. I bet every time you see a teen girl walk down the street in Daisy Dukes, you think to yourself that she must be a slut to show off so much flesh, just as "elders" did to the girls of your generation when they dared to walk down the street in tight jeans, or wear -- GAWD FORBID! -- one-piece or even early bikinis at the beach. Seriously, the vast majority of people learn the "bad stuff" from their PEERS, not their schools. To think that home-schooled kids are somehow immune to these things just because their parents are keeping them from the outside world is foolish. The saddest thing about EVERY home-schooled kid I've ever met (EVERY damned one of them) is that, just like you say, they're like "little adults" when they should be simply BEING KIDS, learning the good stuff AND the bad, and learning how to differentiate the two, and growing into a more savvy, street-smart person because of it, and usually winding up better off and more successful, and more socially WELL-ROUNDED because of it.

Calling children raw little savages is bang on, but it's utterly ridiculous to assume that home-schooling is in any way superior just because a grand total of TWO home-schooled people have civilized chats with you on the IMDB. You'll find far more public- and private-schooled kids who are capable of the same thing. Not every young person is the mess your high-minded comments suggest you think they are.

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Thank you for your novelette, filled with vulagarites, vitriol, and anti-Christian bias. It nicely confirms what I thought.


He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45

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And thank you for your "pleasant" diatribes against modernity and progress and young people you clearly don't understand. Told me everything I needed to know. Time to go yell at the kids on your lawn, I think.

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It seems that you are the one who is always yelling.

He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good... St. Matthew 5:45

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I am? How so?

Are you confusing length with volume? Weird, considering we're TYPING to each other. Or is it my occasional use of caps-lock. If so, I can assure you I do that because it's faster than placing "italic" tags around every word I want to emphasize. Don't take it so personally, chum. And don't paint younger people with the same brush. It makes you seem ignorant, and honestly, I don't want to take that away from your posts when I'm reading them. You seem genuine, but possessed of the typically conservative mindset of an older person. It IS possible to be more understanding, you know. ;)

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I think the themes dealt with in this story are just timeless...they'll always be relevant.

Thats true, this film highlights the social barrier between the rich and the poor along with the upper classes arrogance that still happens today. Especially since today in the aftermath of the recession where the rich get richer and the poor are victimised.

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".

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Although I haven't the time nor the interest to read every post in this thread, I will say that I am 19 and I have loved this movie all my life. Covering everything from infancy on through my teen years. I life in a crazy family, much like the one depicted there. I do not have grandparents [mine all died before I was born, as I was the baby of the family], but my parents are grandparents to everyone. I see myself as the "slightly normal" one of the family that is dating a boy from a *very* normal family, way out of her league. =P [They aren't rich, just... Far more normal than we are, haha.] I love the message of this movie, that you don't have to worry about money. The same one who takes care of the lilies of the fields will take care of you. =]


"I give myself very good advice... but very seldom follow it!" - Alice in Wonderland

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Nice to read such a measured and reasonable response, especially after the ill-informed mudslinging of certain other commentators in this thread against "young people of today". It's always refreshing to see a younger person like myself who can admire the morals and messages of this movie without putting down others from their generation. ;)

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